Punisher Characters

Please see the discussion on the Vietnam War in the Marvel Universe.


Acts of Vengeance

Ahmed ?? (Revolutionary Jihad)

Ahmet, Mr. (Punisher character) - by Chadman

Alaric, Alex (Trust)

Allegre, Luis (Costa mob family)

Alvarez (V.I.G.I.L.)

Amber ?? (Punisher foe)

Armada (Spider-Man foe) - by G Morrow

Amaros (Angel, Grigori)

Anarchy (Ultimatum, Punisher/Moon Knight foe)

Andrew ?? (Spider-Man foe)

Angela ?? (Trust)

Answer (Spider-Man character)

Anthony, Bill (Stilt-Man Gang)

Aquiran (ally of James Nugert)

Architect (Punisher foe)

Armadillo (Captain America character) - by Madison Carter

Arranger (Oswald P. Silkworth, Spider-Man foe) - by Norvo

assassins of Rosalie Carbone (Punisher foes)

Assassins Guild of New York (Assassin's Guild GN)

Audrey ?? (Maggia assassin)

Ayers, Bruce (Punisher character) - by The Beetle

Azazel (Angel, Grigori)

"Baby Monster" Nelson (P.O.V.)

Bancroft (V.I.G.I.L.)

Bartoli, John (Maggia)

Bartoli, Rob (John's son)

Bartoli, Rosa (John's wife)

Bastelli, Martin (Punisher character) - by Chadman

Bastelli, Mary (Martin's sister) - by Chadman

Bastelli, Mr. (Martin's father) - by Chadman

Bates (Alfred Coppersmith's neighbour)

"Battle Cab" (Mr. Badwrench invention)

Belasco (Otherplace, X-Men/New Mutants/Ka-Zar foe)

Ben ?? (deceased husband of Felicia Nugert)

Bengal (Daredevil/Night Thrasher foe) - by Grendel Prime

Billionaire Boys' Club (Arnold Hansen and Roky Vance) - by the Beetle

Bird-Man (Achille DiBacco, Ani-Men) - by Chadman

Blastfurnace (Mutant Liberation Front) - by Prime Eternal

Blindspot (Mutant Liberation Front)

Bloodstone, Elsa (daughter of Ulysses)

Blue Boys (Spider-Man foes) - by Stunner

Blue Marvel (Quantum Banders)

Bobby ?? (Punisher foe)

Bosephus (Family)

Brady (V.I.G.I.L.)

Bruno ?? of Earth-90200

Buchinksy, Col. (Spider-Man foe) -by Ronald Byrd

Bumpo, Mr. (Punisher character)

Bunsen Burners (Punisher foes)

Burnout (Mutant Liberation Front) - by Prime Eternal

Bushmaster (Serpent Society member) - by SQUEAK

Butler, Travis (Stilt-Man Gang)

Cabattoir (Mr. Badwrench invention)

Cane (Rosalie Carbone's assassins)

Captain America (drill instructor, Punisher character) - by Proto-Man

Captain America (Frank Castle) of Earth-93070

Carbone, Rosalie (Punisher foe)

Carbone, Sal (Thorn)

Carmody, Captain John of Earth-90200

Casim, Adam (Punisher/Nightstalkers foe)

Castle, Frank David of Earth-90200

Castle, Lisa Barbara of Earth-90200

Castle, Maria of Earth-90200

Cat (Prowler, Spider-Man foe)

Cervello, don Carlo (Ryker's Island)

Chauffard (Punisher foe)

Chico ?? (Daredevil foe) - by Chadman

Christianson, Mark (International Industrial Alliance)

Chunnel (Morgan Sinclair profile)

Church of the Saved (Punisher enemies) - by The Beetle

Cicero, Caesar of Earth-91600

Cindy ?? (Alfred Coppersmith's girlfriend)

Clansman (Blood on the Moors)

Clarke, Stuart (Punisher ally, Champions/Spider-Man/Wonder Man foe)

Claudio ?? (El Caiman's men)

Cloak of Earth-91600

Collins, Miss of Earth-90200

Combat (Rosalie Carbone's assassins)

Commission for Superhuman Activities (U.S. government organization) - by Prime Eternal

Commission on Superhuman Activities (U.S. government organization) - by Prime Eternal

Committee on Superhuman Activities (U.S. government organization) - by Prime Eternal

Conover, William (X-Men ally) - by Darc_Light & Prime Eternal

Coppersmith, Alfred (Daredevil/Punisher foe) - by the Beetle

Coriander, Marcus (Trust)

Corpus Derelicti (Mutant Liberation Front) - by Prime Eternal

Corrupt (Ghost Rider/Wolverine/Punisher foes) - by Markus Raymond

Costa, Bruno (killed Castle family)

Costa, Frank (head of Costa mob family)

Coven (Leviathan followers, Nick Fury/S.H.I.E.L.D. foes)

Crawford, Dr. Mariah of Earth-92131 (Kraven lover, Spider-Man character) - by Markus Raymond

Crosby (V.I.G.I.L.)

Crumm, Flo (Lucy's mother)

Crumm, Lucy (Ghost Rider/Wolverine/Punisher character) - by Markus Raymond

Cruz, Carlos (Punisher character)

CSA (Commission on Superhuman Activities)

Culver Sports and Gun Club (Agent X/Punisher foes) - by Patrick D Ryall

Cushing, Kate (Daily Bugle, Spider-Man character) - by Minor Irritant

Cyclone (Andre Gerard, Spider-Man/Punisher foe) - by Minor Irritant

Daddy Wronglegs (Punisher/Fantastic Four foe) - by Markus Raymond

Dagger of Earth-91600

Dalek (Microchip weapon) - by Darc_Light

Damage (Punisher/Wolverine foe)

Damasco (Rockhouse Operation)

Daredevil of Earth-91600

Darkhold Redeemers

Dave ?? (V.I.G.I.L.)

Dawkins (V.I.G.I.L.)

Deadeye (Mutant Liberation Front) - by Prime Eternal

Debbie ?? (Punisher character)

Delores ?? (the Waterboys)

"Dick, Clark" of Earth-90113

DiFazzio, Tony (Punisher foe)

Dr. Morphine (Punisher character)

Dodgeball (Punisher foe) - by Minor Irritant

Donovan, Milla (Daredevil's wife) - by Chadman

Dragunov (Punisher character)

Drummond, Leland (Daredevil character) - by Chadman

Dutton (V.I.G.I.L.)

Dylan, Phillip "Philly" (Punisher character)

Earth-89124 (What if? world, Punisher Didn't Use Guns) - by Proto-Man

Earth-90113 (What if? world, Punisher Got Funky) - by Proto-Man

Earth-90200 (What if? world, Punisher's Family Hadn't Been Killed) - by Proto-Man

Earth-91600 (What if? world, Punisher Killed Daredevil) - by Proto-Man

Earth-Crossover (Marvel meets, well, everyone) - by Madison Carter

Earth-Punisher Became Captain America (What if? world) - by Proto-Man

Earth-Punisher Was a Bleeding Heart (Wha Huh) - by Proto-Man

Edam (Froma)

Eel (Edward Lavell, Maggia/Masters of Evil/Enforcers/Thunderbolts member) - by Chadman

Egghead (Bunsen Burners)

Einhorn (V.I.G.I.L.)

El Caiman (drug lord) - by the Beetle

Elite (Vigilante Squad)

Elliot ?? (Microchip's cousin)

Eugene (Daredevil/Punisher character) - by Chadman

Exo-armor (Punisher item)

Ezekeel (Angel, Grigori)

Failsafe Protocol 001-003 (Wolverine/Punisher foes)

Failsafe Protocol Omega (Wolverine/Punisher foe)

Family (Punisher foes)

Ferguson, Detective Sergeant (Clansman)

Fernando (Rockhouse Operation)

Fielding, Mrs. (Alfred Coppersmith victim)

Flurgen, Hans-Dieter (Blood on the Moors)

Foster, Belinda (Wilfrid Sobel's girlfriend)

Frank (a man named) (Punisher character)

Frankie (Joan's dog)

Frost (Hulk foe) - by Mick Martin, the Anti-Grimm

Fryer, Colonel Joseph (New American Revolution)

Fury, Nick of Earth-93070

Gabriella (V.I.G.I.L.)

Gadriel (Angel, Punisher character)

Garrote (Rosalie Carbone's assassins)

Gelb of Earth-91600

General (Punisher foe) - by The Beetle

Gerty, Jerome (Trust)

Ghost Rider (Noble Kale, 17th century) - by Proto-Man

Gig (Family)

Global Security, INC (Whittaker, Intruder GN)

Gnucci, Bobbie (Ma's son)

Gnucci, Carlo (Ma's son)

Gnucci, Dino (Ma's brother)

Gnucci, Eddie (Ma's son)

Gnucci, Ma (Punisher foe) - by Spiderpool

Gomez, Hector (Rockhouse Operation)

Gorman, Cleve (Return to Big Nothing)

Gorto, Johnny (Punisher foe)

Gouda (Froma)

Goudal, Chester (POV)

Graviton (Avengers/Thunderbolts foe) - by Norvo

Greaves, Harrison (Kingdom Gone GN)

Green Goblin (genetic construct, Spider-Man foe) - by Minor Irritant

Gregario (Nubian Nation)

Gresham, Byron (Church of the Saved)

Grigori (Angels, Punisher characters)

Gyrich, Henry Peter of Earth-93070

Hal (V.I.G.I.L.)

Hamilton, "Cockroach" (Cage/Black Panther foe) - by Omar Karindu

Hannigan, Byron (Costa mob family)

Hansen, Arnold (Billionaire Boys' Club) - by the Beetle

Harry ?? (Punisher foe)

Hauley, Mike (Mark Christianson agent)

Hawthorne, Despina (Deadpool/Punisher foe) - by Grendel Prime

Haywerth, General Lewis (Commission on Superhuman Activities) - by Prime Eternal

Heathen (Lynn Michaels foe)

Hellstorm (Son of Satan)

Hermanos de la Luna (Lobo Brothers gang, Spider-Man foes)

Herrera, Manny (Mecozzi Crime Family) - by the Beetle

Hitman (Spider-Man/Punisher foe)

Hit Man (Jimmy Pierce, Punisher character)

Hit Man Punisher (Jimmy Pierce)

the Holy (Vigilante Squad)

Homer ?? (Church of the Saved)

Hopkins (Punisher character)

Hoyle, Chris (Punisher foe) - by The Beetle

Humanity's Last Stand (anti-mutant group) - by Proto-Man

Hunt, Forrest (Castle family killing)

Ice Phillips (Nam, Punisher character)

(Idiot) Punisher (Punisher character)

International Industrial Alliance (Punisher foe)

Injun Joe (mobster)

Ivan ?? (Blood on the Moors)

Jackie ?? (Zum Corporation)

Jadoo (gang, Venom/Punisher foes)

Jake ?? of Earth-90200

Janet ?? (the Waterboys)

Jared ?? (Punisher foe)

Jaten (Hood character) - by Grendel Prime

Jessup, Harold (V.I.G.I.L.)

Jester (Jody Putt, Avengers/Cloak & Dagger/Spider-Man foe) - by Chadman

Jigsaw (Punisher foe)

Joan the Mouse (Punisher character)

Johnson, Boff (Punisher foe)

Jones, "Piranha" (Cage/Terror foe) - by Omar Karindu

Judge Marimon of Earth-90200

Julio ?? (El Caiman's men)

Kangaroo (Hibbs, Spider-Man foe)

Katzenbaum, Nick (Punisher foe)

Keena (Church of the Saved)

Kickback (Corporation, Cage foe)

Killer B (Baltimore drug dealer)

Killpower (Marvel UK)

Kim, Colonel (Intruder GN)

Kingpin (Wilson Fisk)

Kismet (Fantastic Four/Quasar character) - by Proto-Man

Kiyami (Takegura's bodyguard)

Kolsky (Costa mob family)

Kugel, Rose (Wild Rose)

Letz (V.I.G.I.L.)

Leviathan (Nick Fury/S.H.I.E.L.D. foe) - by Markus Raymond

Lifeform (Daredevil/Hulk/Punisher/Silver Surfer foe)

Ling, Mr. (Punisher foe)

Lobo, Carlos (Spider-Man foe) - by Minor Irritant

Lobo, Eduardo (Spider-Man foe) - by Minor Irritant

Lou ?? (Mecozzi Crime Family)

Louis ?? (Church of the Saved)

Lourdes, Mike (Punisher character)

Lowe, John (V.I.G.I.L.)

Lucinda ?? (daughter of El Caiman)

Maestro of Corruption (MC)

Magasy, Harold (Mecozzi Crime Family)

Magdelena (Punisher character) - by Markus Raymond

Magnum, Moses (Black Panther/Avengers/X-Men foe)

Malum, Peter (Spinning Doomsday's Web)

Man-Bull (Daredevil foe)

Mandrill (Shanna/Daredevil/Defenders/Avengers foe) - by Chadman

Mandroids (armor/weapon, Tony Stark creation) - by Spidermay

man named Frank (Punisher character)

Mangano, Vincent (Maggia, Punisher foe) - by Prime Eternal

Manphibian (Legion of Monsters story) - by Madison Carter

Marat, Christophe (Blood on the Moors)

Marrs, Desmond (Namor foe) - by Chadman

Marrs, Phoebe (Namor ally, Desmond's twin sister) - by Chadman

Mason, Theodore "Ted" of Earth-91600

Master of Crack (MC)

Master of Vengeance (Spider-Man/Punisher foe)

Masumi ?? (Assassins Guild)

Mathers, George (Commission on Superhuman Activities) - by Prime Eternal

Maw (Family)

Max the Rottweiler (Punisher's dog)

MC (Punisher foe)

McGuire of Earth-90200

Mechanic (former weapons supplier)

Mechanoids (Buchinsky)

Mecozzi Crime Family (Punisher foes) - by the Beetle

Mecozzi, Mr. (head of Mecozzi Crime Family)

Medallion (Punisher foe) - by Markus Raymond

Melanie ?? (Jimmy Sweet's girlfriend)

Menninger, Clara (Johnny Blaze/Ghost Rider (Ketch) character) - by Markus Raymond

Merv ?? (Daredevil foe) - by Chadman

Michaels, Lynn (Punisher)

Mickey ?? (Punisher foe)

Microchip (David Linus Lieberman)

Microchip Junior (Punisher character) - by the Beetle & Snood

Mike ?? (Punisher foe)

Mind that Controls (MC)

Mrs. Tartaglia (Skinny Paulie's wife)

Mr. Badwrench (Punisher foe) - by Markus Raymond

Mr. Pain (Underworld foe/brother) - by Chadman

Mister Payback (Vigilante Squad)

Mitch ?? (Family)

Mob Princesses (Terror characters)

Hassan ibn Mohamet (Mecozzi Crime Family)

Mondo Pain (Punisher foe)

Monkey (Punisher character)

Montoya, Angela (wife of Hector)

Montoya, Hector (Punisher foe) - by the Beetle

Mortician (Punisher foe) - by Proto-Man

"Moscow" Eddie (Eddie Yarkov)

Mouse (computer hacker)

Mully (the Hex Files) - by Prime Eternal

Mumm, Max E. (Ultra-Max creator, Punisher/Daredevil character)

Murdoch (Blood on the Moors)

Mutant Liberation Front (Humanity's Last Stand version) - by Prime Eternal

Mys-Tech (Marvel UK) - by Snood & Changeling

Mysterion (Superior Six, Spider-Man (Octavius) foe) - by Minor Irritant

National Security Council of Earth-93070

Nelson, "Baby Monster" (P.O.V.)

New American Revolution (Punisher enemies) - by The Beetle

Newton, Ralph (Snake Men)

Nicky ?? (Punisher victim)

Nighthawk (Kyle Richmond, Defenders member) - by Chadman

Nightstalkers (Blade, Drake & King team, supernatural fighters) - by Proto-Man

Nino, Hector (Punisher foe) - by Chadman

Nolo Contendre (hitman)

Norma Jean (Ghost Rider/Wolverine/Punisher character)

Nubian Nation (Ryker's Island)

Nugert, Felicia (friend of Microchip) - by the Beetle

Nugert, James (Microchip foe) - by the Beetle

O'Toole, Quentin (Punisher's ally) - by the Beetle

"old man" (Zum Corporation)

Olivier (demon) - by Squid

Oni Yew of Earth-2301 (Mangaverse, Punisher foe) - by MarvellousLuke

Outlaw (Nigel Higgins)

Pachter of Earth-91600

Paolo ?? (Bullseye character) - by Chadman

Parlini, Ralph (Maggia hitman)

Patrillo Family (Punisher foes) - by Chadman

Patrillo, Alphonso "Fonzie" (Patrillo Family)

Patrillo, Nico (Patrillo Family)

Patrillo, Rocco (Patrillo Family)

Patrillo, Sonny (Patrillo Family)

Paul ?? (New American Revolution)

Paulie ?? (Punisher foe)

Paw (Family)

Payback (Punisher character)

Peculo, Bobby (Maggia)

People's Liberation Front (Hitman allies)

Persuader (Roland Rayburn, Spider-Man foe) - by Minor Irritant

Phalanx (Punisher character)

Phil ?? (Church of the Saved)

Phillips, Ice (Nam, Punisher character) - by Per Degaton

Pierce, Donald (X-Men foe) - by Chadman

Pierce, Jimmy (Hit Man Punisher)

Pit-Viper (The Viper's double) - by Prime Eternal

Pixie (Punisher character)

Pony (computer hacker)

Ponygirl (computer hacker)

Ponygirl and Mouse (computer hackers)

Professor Power (Captain America/Defenders/X-Men foe) - by Chadman

Prufrock, George (Lifeform)

Prufrock, Jethro (George's father)

Prufrock, Martha (George's sister)

Psycho-Cops (Punisher foes) - by Grendel Prime

Punisher's exo-armor (Punisher item)

Punisher (Lynn Michaels)

Punisher (Hit Man Punisher)

Punisher (Idiot Punisher)

Punisher (Outlaw)

Punisher (Yuppunisher)

Punisher (Carlos Cruz)

Punisher (Frank Castle)

Punishment Squad (Trust)

Pyre (Venom/Punisher foe) - by Markus Raymond

Radio Annie (Punisher foe)

"Rainey, Joe" (Punisher undercover)

Rajan (Punisher character)

Rak (Ghost Rider (Ketch) foe) - by Proto-Man

Ramsey, Roger "Rock" (Stilt-Man Gang)

Rapidfire (Luke Cage foe) - by Minor Irritant

Rapido (Eurohit)

Rat (Terror victim) - by Markus Raymond

Raving Beauty (Punisher character) - by Grendel Prime

Recoil (Punisher foe)

Red Fever (Punisher character)

Redmond (Punisher foe)

Reiko ?? (Assassins Guild)

Rev (Sammy Smith)

Revelation (Morlock, Wolverine/Punisher character) - by Markus Raymond

Revolutionary Jihad (terrorists) - by the Beetle

Rice, Timothy (Punisher character) - by Zerostar

Rigg (V.I.G.I.L.)

Ringer (successor, Moon Knight foe) - by Prime Eternal

Ripper (Punisher character)

Roadkill (Secret Defenders foe)

Robertson, Joe of Earth-90200

Roc (Rosalie Carbone's assassins)

Rockhouse Operation (Punisher enemies) - by The Beetle

Ronny ?? (Bunsen Burners)

Rose (Jacob Conover, Spider-Man foe) - by Minor Irritant

Rose Kugel (Wild Rose)

Rosetti Brothers (Mecozzi Crime Family enemies) - by the Beetle

Rover G (Punisher victim) - by Chadman

Rudy ?? (godson of Microchip)

Ruth ?? (the Waterboys)

Sal ?? (Punisher foe)

Sal ?? (Punisher victim)

Sal ?? (Stilt-Man Gang)

Sammish, Adrian (Commission on Superhuman Activities) - by Prime Eternal

Sanderson, Orville (Commission on Superhuman Activities) - by Prime Eternal

Sariel (Angel, Grigori)

Schmidlin, Mr. (Punisher character)

Sorchers (Punisher foes) - by Minor Irritant

Scorpia (Spider-Man foe) - by Minor Irritant

Sculder (the Hex Files) - by Prime Eternal

Shadows, Jack (Punisher foe)

Shaolin Scientist Squad (Punisher foes) - by Grendel Prime

Shiv (Punisher/Nightstalkers foe)

Sijo (Takegura's bodyguard)

Sikorski, Raymond (Avengers liaison) - by Prime Eternal

Silence (Rosalie Carbone's assassins)

Sinclair, Morgan (Eurohit)

Skaggs (Punisher victim)

Skinner (Costa mob family)

Skinny Paulie (Punisher foe) - by Markus Raymond

SLAM (Malum's weapon)

Slasher (Billionaire Boys' Club) - by the Beetle

Smith, Sandie (Church of the Saved) - by The Beetle

Snakebite (Eurohit)

Snake Men (Slither-derived)

Sniper (van Burian)

Sobel, Wilfrid (Rockhouse Operation) - by The Beetle

Soon, Mr. (Intruder GN)

Spacker Dave (neighbor)

Spackwagons (Spacker Dave followers)

Speakeasy (Darkhold character)

Spider-Man (Peter Parker)

Sternes, Derek (V.I.G.I.L.)

Stevie ?? (Gnucci crime family)

Stiletto (Rosalie Carbone's assassins)

Stilt-Man (Wilbur Day, Daredevil/Spider-Man/Punisher foe) - by Chadman

Stilt-Man (Michael Watts, Stilt-Man Gang)

Stilt-Man Gang (Punisher foes) - by Chadman

Stingray (Walter Newell, Namor/Avengers character) - by MarvellousLuke

Stone Cold (Punisher foe)

Strathcoe, Angus (Blood on the Moors)

Strathcoe, Mingus (Blood on the Moors)

Super Powers Commission (Commission on Superhuman Activities)

Svetlanya (Dragunov's transport)

Swarm (Fritz von Meyer, Spider-Man/Champions foe) - by MarvellousLuke

Swedish Dan (Punisher foe) - by Chadman

Sweets, Jimmy (Daredevil/Punisher foe) - by Chadman

Sword of Scotia (Clansman)

Takegura (Punisher foe) - by the Beetle

Tamri, Kito (Punisher character) - by Grendel Prime

Tariel (Angel, Grigori)

Taylor, Kymberly (SHIELD agent) - by Prime Eternal

Teck-Yo, Reverend Moon (Intruder GN)

Teo ?? (El Caiman's men)

Tequila (Rosalie Carbone's assassins)

Terror INC of Earth-Shadowline (Shreck) - by Zerostar, Snood, Nick the Squid, Prime Eternal & Per Degaton

Texas (Trust)

Thermal (Mutant Liberation Front)

Thorn (Sal Carbone)

Tiger Shark (Namor foe, Masters of Evil) - by Chadman

Tjinder ?? (Punisher foe)

Tommy ?? (Trust)

Tommy ?? (ally of James Nugert)

Tommy ?? (Punisher foe)

Trust (Punisher foes)

Tulie (New American Revolution)

Ugol of Earth-91600

Ultra-Max (computer virus, Punisher/Daredevil/Wonder Man/Guardians of the Galaxy stories)

Underworld (Jackie Dio, hitman) - by Chadman

UNISYM (crime organization) - by the Beetle

unnamed (New American Revolution)

unnamed (Rockhouse Operation)

Uri-El (Johnny Blaze/Punisher character) - by Markus Raymond

Vampire (Deke Wainscroft, P.O.V.)

Vampire Killer (Deke Wainscroft, P.O.V.)

Viccuci, Mrs. (Daredevil/Punisher character) - by Chadman

V.I.G.I.L. (Punisher foes) - by Proto-Man

Vigilante Squad (Elite, the Holy, Mr. Payback)

Vulture (Jimmy Natale, Spider-Man foe) - by Minor Irritant

Wainscroft, Daemian (Deke's father)

Wainscroft, Deke (P.O.V.)

Warden Cole (Daredevil character) - by Chadman

Waterboys (Punisher foes) - by The Beetle

West (V.I.G.I.L.)

Whitaker, Colonel Ross (Intruder GN)

White, Melissa (Ray's daughter)

White, Ray (Punisher character) - by The Beetle

White, Vickie (Church of the Saved, Ray's wife) - by The Beetle

Wild Rose (Rose Kugel, Punisher character) - by the Beetle & Ronald Byrd

Wizard (Killer B)

Wong, George (Punisher character)

Wynn, Thomas (Punisher foe) - by Chadman

Yarkov, "Moscow" Eddie (Blood on the Moors)

Yasir (Revolutionary Jihad)

Yuppunisher (Punisher character)

Zanussi, Bruno (Blood on the Moors)

Zonkers (P.O.V.)

Zum Corporation (manufacturers) - by the Beetle


 

The Vietnam "War" in the Marvel Universe (see also the entry on our clarifications page)

    The discussion of events in the real world are often topical, meaning that their exact time period cannot be fit into Marvel's sliding timescale, which keeps moving further forward. The history of Sha Shan, the Monks of the Hidden Temple, and even Flash Thompson were originally tied into the Vietnam war/conflict. However, they certainly cannot have been involved in that conflict, spanning a maximum range of 1965-1975, and still be considered characters in their mid-twenties in the modern era.
    Rather than ignore or erase such storylines, Marvel usually tries to adapt or adjust them to fit. For example, it is now established that the Fantastic Four's first mission was not actually to the moon, as first written, but rather to another galaxy. By the same token, Flash participated in a military action in an Asian nation, and his actions as seen in the comic book did occur, however, he was not involved in the Vietnam conflict. The activities could still have occurred in Vietnam, or perhaps they could have taken place in the fictional parallel nation of Sin Cong.
    The same is true of the Punisher. In the series "Born," Frank Castle is a Captain in the Marines in 1971, with his first tour of duty in 1968 (keeping in mind that we know he studied in the seminary before heading off to "war.").  That would still place him in his mid-to-late fifties at the date I right this profile. Forty years old for the Punisher would seem more accurate, giving his athletic ability, and I could buy 45, or even 50 with a stretch of the imagination. However, as the timeline keeps on sliding forward, to tie the Punisher to the Vietnam "War" makes him pushing 60, and a decade from now, he'd be pushing 70! He's not Nick Fury or Captain America, so there's no Super Soldier Serum or Infinity Formula keeping him young --unless, of course, they pull something funky in Born (which they did, but anyway)...--and I think it would really take away from the character if there was something superhuman about him keeping him young and healthy.
    There are those who just think it seems right for the Punisher to have been THE Vietnam war (and I even know a guy who still insists that Flash Thompson was in THE Vietnam "War"--he read the comic, and so it happened that way!). This idea become less plausible each year. Keep in mind that when originally established, the Punisher was a deserter from the Vietnam war, because those stories took place during the conflict. Also remember that Reed Richards and Ben Grimm used to have been World War II veterans. The word is topical, my friends. Read it...learn it...live it!!! ;)
    So, while I understand it's a work of science-FICTION/fantasy, trying to tie him to the Vietnam era is simply not believable.
    Options:

  1. A military action in Vietnam took place 5-10 years before the modern era in the Marvel Universe. This action is separate from the Vietnam "War," which did take place in 1965-1975. This action is not locked to any real time year, but rather slides forward along with Marvel's sliding time scale.
    This was Marvel's take during the Punisher portion of the Marvel Knights Encyclopedia.
  2. The Vietnam War happened 5-10 years before the modern era (ie. starting with the Fantastic Four's maiden voyage) in the Marvel Universe, and he was indeed in that war, which is not locked to any real time year.
  3. The Punisher was in some other conflict in South East Asia at a similar time period as in the previous option. Sin Cong makes a good substitute for Vietnam in the Marvel Universe.

Also:

    As originally intended, the series "The Nam" did not take place on Earth-616 (the mainstream Marvel Universe), but rather in an alternate Earth (The series was labeled from the start as non-continuity). However, if the first option above is taken as fact, then the series could have taken place during the sliding conflict on Earth-616. Perhaps the Nam series itself took place on an alternate world (Earth-Fallow) and actually took place during the real Vietnam war. On Earth-616, the exact same events took place, but just during the sliding conflict. It is that version that the Punisher encountered. On Earth-Fallow, Castle may have been a marine during the real Vietnam War, and his encounter with them could have taken place during that time period, as well.
    When "Ice" Phillips encountered Castle in the modern era, it was either the exact character from The Nam crossing over to the modern era on  Earth-616, or the Earth-616 counterpart to the Nam character...OR, you could make the whole series in-continuity by having the series follow one of the rules above.
    see the comments in the Ice Phillips profile for further discussion of this:
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/phillipsicenam.htm

    So anyway, that's why I refer to the location of the Hidden Temple as Southeast Asia. It could even be in Vietnam (just not during the Vietnam War in real time), or Sin Cong, or any other Southeast Asian country.  I describe Flash's activity as being involved with a military action in Southeast Asia.
    Current Marvel policy seems to be most consistent be with the first option: The Punisher fought in Vietnam, just not in the Vietnam War of 1965-1975. Flash, however, is a slightly different situation, as his military experience was during the modern era, but the same potential rules apply.

 

And one more thought on that issue:

I heard a theory that explains why characters never age. Franklin Richards is using his powers to slow time down, and no one notices. The kid created a universe, this wouldn't be too hard.
    I like the idea, as it allows the stories to happen in the period they were written stay that way, but allows the characters to stay young.
    --Caesar Godzillatron


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