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Type: Divergent Earth

Environment: Earth-like

Usual means of access: Presumably vibrational attunement

Dominant Life Form: Humans

Significant Inhabitants: The Arranger, Bruno, Captain America, Captain John Carmody, Frank David Castle, Lisa Barbara Castle, Maria Castle, Miss Collins, Jake, J. Jonah Jameson, the Kingpin, Judge Marimon, McGuire, the Punisher (Francis "Frank" Castle), Joe Robertson, Spider-Man

First Appearance: What If? II#10 (February, 1990)

History: (What If? II#10) - During a picnic with his family in Central Park, Frank Castle helped his son retrieve his kite from a nearby bush, not realizing that members of the mob were about to perform an assassination. A storm soon approached and the Castle family packed up, never witnessing the assassination that eventually went down. That night, Castle couldn't sleep and when his wife Maria asked what was wrong, he announced that he had applied to the police force and was accepted. Months later, Officer Castle and his partner McGuire arrested a criminal that had been captured by Spider-Man and his partner explained that despite their help by the superheroes, the crook would go free due to his connections. Castle refused to believe that until at the crook's court date, he witnessed Judge Marimon being bribed and then watched in shock as Marimon then returned hours later, ruling that the police search was illegal and dismissing the case. Following the court case, Castle and his partner went for some coffee at Welishulski's Deli, where the owner Bruno asked if McGuire wanted his payment. McGuire then told Castle to wait outside while he handled the situation. With Castle outside, his partner accepted a bribe and then returned to the car. When Castle was the situation was about, McGuire put some money in Castle's pocket and told him that they were paid to turn their head and that he should go buy something nice for his kids. That night, Frank spoke with his wife about the bribe and while he was angered knowing the bribers were selling drugs, his wife told Frank to just let it go and not cause trouble. The next day, Castle decided to speak to Captain Carmody at the Precinct House about the bribe and Carmody told Frank that he needed his help to bring down the crooked justice system. Agreeing to help, Frank left with his faith in the system renewed, not realizing that as he left, Carmody phoned the Arranger and asked to speak with the Kingpin about the "problem" he had just discovered.

 As time passed, Frank collected a great amount of evidence against the crooked policemen and judges while his children continued to grow up, his son looking up to his father and the numerous superheroes in New York. Months later, Frank returned home to find his wife sewing his son a "super hero suit" for Halloween and when his son tried it on, he laughingly claimed to be "Captain Punisher" when Frank made a comment about going back to capital punishment as he read the paper. Eventually, Castle turned copies of his evidence over to Captain Carmody and when he left, Carmody commented to himself that soon, Castle would be unable to tell anyone about the evidence. That night, Maria's cousin Jake stopped by to visit and Frank's asked to sleep in their parents' room because they kept having nightmares. In the middle of the night, Castle's daughter asked for a drink of water and when Frank got up to get a glass of water, mobsters opened fire on Castle's bedroom killing Castle's family. The mobsters then tossed a grenade inside to destroy the bodies but Castle secretly survived under a piece of debris. Going to find his gun after the blast, Castle discovered the bodies of his family.

Days later at the Castle family funeral, as Captain Carmody said the eulogy at Frank Castle's funeral, he was shot dead by Frank Castle using a sniper rifle. The next night, Castle targeted Judge Marimon as he was leaving a house of ill repute, killing him sniper-style as well. The following morning, Frank read in the Daily Bugle that he was being called an "Angel of Death" and determined to make sure he didn't get a bad rep like Spider-Man, Castle mysteriously sent the evidence he had gathered on the corrupt officers to Joe Robertson at the Bugle and to the Kingpin himself. Despite the Kingpin ordering his death, Castle continued his killings with his new reputation as an Avenger of Corruption instead of Angel of Death and eventually, Castle confronted his old partner McGuire as he was leaving Welishulski's Deli. Shocked to see Castle alive, McGuire tried to figure the situation out but he was shot by Castle, who announced that Frank Castle was dead and that he was the Punisher.

Comments: Created by Doug Murray, Rik Levins, and Bob McLeod.

This reality diverged from the Punisher origin story seen in Marvel Preview#2 (1975).

A couple of things of note: 1.) Frank's children were never named in this story, but since his wife was named Maria in the story, I ASSumed that his children would also be named the same as their Earth-616 counterparts. 2.) Frank's son had a poster of the Human Torch on his wall, suggesting that the Human Torch also had a counterpart in this reality.

Profile by Proto-Man.

Earth-The Punisher's Family Hadn't Been Killed has no known connections to

The Arranger

The Arranger was the Kingpin's right-hand man, just like his 616 counterpart. He often bribed police Captain John Carmody so that he ignore the crimes of the Kingpin. Unknown to him, the Arranger was photographed handing money to Carmody.

--What If? II#10 (seen only in a photo)


Bruno was a deli owner who allowed drug dealers to work within his deli. He bribed Officer McGuire with money to ignore the dealers and became very nervous when Castle began killing corrupt policemen.

--What If? II#10

Captain America

Captain America was the same as his Earth-616 counterpart. Frank Castle's son had a newspaper clipping of a time when Cap stopped a bank robbery.

He presumably had the same peak human physical abilities and longevity that his 616 counterpart had.

--What If? II#10 (seen only in a newspaper clipping)

Captain John Carmody

Police Captain John Carmody was a former 2nd U. S. Marine who served in Phu Bai in 1968 and was the head of the 54th Precinct in New York. When Frank Castle was offered a bribe, he came to Carmody to gage his opinion. Carmody agreed that something had to be done and asked Castle to gather evidence against the corrupt policemen, not telling Castle that he was corrupt himself. As soon as Castle left, Carmody phoned the Arranger and had explain to the Kingpin was Castle was working on. Months later, when Castle turned in his evidence, Carmody made sure the evidence never went public by having Castle and his family killed. Not realizing that Castle himself had actually survived, Carmody gave the eulogy at his funeral where he was shot dead by Castle using a sniper rifle.

--What If? II#10 (#10d,

Frank David Castle

Frank David Castle was son of Frank Castle. He idolized superheroes and hoped to one day be like his father, fighting the good fight, even going as "Captain Punisher" for Halloween. One night when his uncle Jake was visiting, Frank was shot dead by mobsters who were targeting his father for gathering evidence of corrupt policemen.

--What If? II#10 (#10d,

Lisa Barbara Castle

Lisa was the daughter of Frank Castle and was Castle's oldest child. She was killed by mobsters targeting Frank when they tried to kill Frank for gathering evidence against the corrupt policemen.

--What If? II#10 (#10d,

Maria Castle

Maria was Frank Castle's wife and was worried when Frank was offered a bribe. She continuously supported her husband but was killed when mobsters targeted Frank for gathering evidence against the corrupt policemen.

--What If? II#10 (#10d,

Miss Collins

Miss Collins was Joe Robertson's assistant at the Daily Bugle. Following the death of his family, Frank Castle dropped off a package with Miss Collins with specific instructions that only Robertson was to open the package. She immediately delivered it to Robbie.

--What If? II#10


Jake was the cousin of Maria Castle and was a merchant mariner. When he was between ships, he paid the Castles a visit at their home in New York, only to be killed along with them when Frank Castle was targeted by mobsters.

--What If? II#10 (#10d,

The Kingpin

The Kingpin was basically the same as his Earth-616 counterpart up until he was shown Frank Castle's evidence of his involvement in the bribery of New York's policemen. When the evidence of his involvement was given to him by Frank Castle himself, the Kingpin ordered his death. Despite that, Castle continued killing the corrupt officers and politicians.

The Kingpin, like his 616 counterpart, relied his own size and strength if he was forced to get physical.

--What If? II#10

Judge Marimon

Judge Marimon was a corrupt judge, who often let criminals go as long as they paid him off. When Spider-Man captured a criminal who was arrested by Officers Castle and McGuire, Judge Marimon dismissed the case when he was given money. Months later, he was killed by Frank Castle after a night of debauchery at a house of ill repute in the suburbs.

--What If? II#10 (#10d,


Officer McGuire was Frank Castle's senior partner when he joined the police force. He was corrupt, often accepting bribes from Bruno so that he would ignore the drug dealers who were peddling in Bruno's deli. Months later, he was killed by Frank Castle after Castle's family had been killed while Castle was gathering evidence against corrupt cops.

McGuire was a police officer, so he was trained for the job and carried a handgun.

--What If? II#10 (#10d,

The Punisher

Officer Francis "Frank" Castle was a decorated Marine and Vietnam veteran. Upon returning home and sharing a day in Central Park with his family, Frank joined the New York Police Department, where he was shocked at the amount of corruption within. Explaining the cases of bribery to Captain Carmody, Frank was asked to gather evidence against them and when he presented the evidence to Carmody, his family was killed by mobsters in retaliation. Surviving the assault with scars, Castle began killing corrupt officials and when he finally confronted his old partner McGuire, Castle announced that he was only the Punisher.

Punisher used various conventional weaponry, like his Earth-616 counterpart.

--What If? II#10

Joe Robertson

Joe Robertson was just like his Earth-616 counterpart. When Castle began hunting down corrupt officials, he opted to improve the Daily Bugle's image of him by sending a copy of his evidence against the officials to Joe Robertson.

--What If? II#10


Spider-Man was the same as his Earth-616 counterpart. He foiled a criminal by webbing him to a lamppost where he was arrested by Officers McGuire and Castle. Frank commented on how Spider-Man was always helping them and how he was being given a bad name by the Daily Bugle. He was later seen web-swinging through New York as Castle thought to himself about the Bugle was starting to give him a bad rep as well.

Spider-Man presumably had the same superhuman strength, agility, spider-sense, and ability to adhere to solid surfaces that his 616 counterpart had.

--What If? II#10

What If? II#10, p1, pan2 (Frank Castle w/ Family, main pic)
 p6, pan5 (Spider-Man)
 p9, pan8 (Bruno)
 p13, pan1 (Captain Carmody)
 p14, pan3 (Captain America)
 p14, pan6 (Maria Castle)
 p14, pan8 (Frank David Castle)
 p16, pan6 (Jake)
 p17, pan4 (Lisa Barbara Castle)
 p22, pan1 (Judge Marimon)
 p24, pan2 (Miss Collins)
 p24, pan3 (Joe Robertson)
 p24, pan5 (Arranger)
 p24, pan7 (Kingpin)
 p27, pan2 (McGuire)
 p27, pan5 (Punisher)

Other Appearances:
What If? II#10 (February, 1990) - Doug Murray (writer), Rik Levins (penciler), Bob McLeod (inks)

Any Additions/Corrections? please let me know.

Last Updated: 08/16/04

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