(The whole Rama-Tut/Scarlet Centurion/Kang/Immortus/Iron Lad deal is pretty complicated. Essentially, they -- for the most part -- started out as the same being.
I've focused on information directly related to this Scarlet Centurion here.
There are pages for Immortus and Rama-Tut on the Appendix, and there are sub-profiles some of the other Scarlet Centurions as well...hopefully I'll have the time to profile Iron Lad and Kang as well in the not so distant future)
Real Name: Nathaniel Richards
Identity/Class: Extratemporal (Earth-6311/Other-Earth) human
active in this incarnation circa 41st century apparently Earth-712 (see comments)
Occupation: Emperor, conqueror;
former Pharaoh, adventurer, scholar
Group Membership: None
Affiliations: Ruler of an empire spanning 15 worlds and encompasses three trillion citizens;
Overmind (Grom) of his time period (see comments);
formerly Earth-712's Institute of Evil of Earth (Ape X/Xina, Dr. Decibel/Anton Decibel, Foxfire/Olivia Underwood, Lamprey/Donald McGuiggin, Quagmire/Jerome Michaels, Shape/Raleigh Lund), Master Menace (Emil Burbank), Professor Imam, Squadron Supreme of Earth-712 (Dr. Spectrum/Joe Ledger, Haywire/Hal Danforth, Hyperion, Inertia/Edith Freiberg, Lady Lark/Skylark/Linda Lewis, Moonglow/Arcanna Jones, Power Princess/Zarda, Michael Redstone, Whizzer/Stanley Stewart)
formerly Doom (Victor von Doom) of Earth-616, Grandmaster (En Dwi Gast) of Reality-616;
formerly Baal of the Crimson Sands, Logos, Ozymandias, Nephri, Sandstormers/People of the Sands of Earth-616;
formerly worshipped by the people of Earth-616's Ancient Egypt circa 2950-2920 BC, served by Egypt's armies and guards;
formerly Reed Richards Rocket Group (Ben Grimm, Reed Richards, Johnny Storm, Sue Storm) of Earth-8212
Enemies: Squadron Supreme of Earth-712 (Amphibian/Kingsley Rice, Blue Eagle/Jim Dore, Dr. Spectrum/Joe Ledger, Golden Archer/Wyatt MacDonald, Hyperion,
Nighthawk/Kyle Richmond, Nuke/Al Gaines, Power Princess/Zarda, Skymax/Sk'ym'x, Tom Thumb/Thomas Thompson, Whizzer/Stanley Stewart)
Nth Man (Thomas Lightner) of Earth-616 (although the "encounter" took place in Universe-712's modern era);
Avengers of Earth-616 (Black Panther/T'Challa, Captain America/Steve Rogers, Goliath/Hank Pym, Hawkeye/Clint Barton, Wasp/Janet Van Dyne),
Avengers (Giant-Man/Hank Pym, Hulk/Bruce Banner, Iron Man/Tony Stark, Thor Odinson, Wasp/Janet Van Dyne) and all other heroes of Earth-689;
Blacquesmith and Cable (Nathan Dayspring Askani'son) of Earth-4935 (although the encounter took place in Earth-616's modern era),
as Rama-Tut in Earth-616's ancient Egypt (circa 2950-2940 BC): Amenhotep (Khufor), Apocalypse (En Sabah Nur), Baal of the Crimson Sands, Dr. Stephen Strange, Ennead/Heliopolitan gods, Fantastic Four (Human Torch/Johnny Storm, Invisible Girl/Sue Storm, Mr. Fantastic/Reed Richards), Genetix (Base/Hiro Sokuto, Ridge/Tim Holloway, Shift/Clifton Joseph, Stinger/Blodwen Reese, Vesper/Raani Jatwinder), Khonshu, Killpower (Julius Mullarkey), Logos, Ozymandias, Priests of Khonshu, Samira, Sandstormers/People of the Sands, West Coast Avengers (Hawkeye/Clint Barton, Iron Man/Tony Stark, Tigra/Greer Nelson, Wonder Man/Simon Williams);
(as Nathaniel Richards) Fantastic Four (Big Brain, Dragonfly, Mandroid, Ultra-Woman) of Earth-7712;
Morgan of 31st century Earth-6311;
Known Relatives: Ramades
John, Laura, Nathaniel and Cassandra Richards, Nathaniel Richards Jr., and Nedra, matriarch of the Eyriennes (ancestors);
Tara (Huntara), Reed Richards (Mr. Fantastic), Franklin and Valeria Richards, extended Richards family, Brigit & various Eyriennes (common ancestry);
Victor von Doom (alleged ancestor); Kristoff Vernard (alleged common ancestry);
Kang, Immortus, Iron Lad, Rama-Tut and numerous other alternate reality counterparts and their offspring
Aliases: Conqueror of Time Space, His Imperial Majesty, Lord Scarlet, Victorex Prime;
"Phantasm" (insult for his chronographically projected form per Master Menace);
formerly King of Kings, Master of Men, Lord of the Seven Suns, Rama-Tut, "the visitor from beyond the sun" (alleged translation of Rama-Tut); possibly Iron Lad (see comments)
Base of Operations: His throne in a vast amphitheatre of his palace at the hub of a continent-wide megalopolis (see comments);
(as Scarlet Centurion) formerly Earth-689;
formerly Egypt, circa 2950-2940 BC;
formerly Earth-6311/Other-Earth, 31st century
First Appearance: (As Rama-Tut, pre-divergence)
Fantastic Four I#19 (October, 1963);
(as Scarlet Centurion, pre-divergence) Avengers Annual#2 (September, 1968);
(Scarlet Centurion, post-divergence) Squadron Supreme I#2 (October, 1985)
Powers/Abilities: The Scarlet Centurion ages much more slowly than modern humanity.
He is an expert in travel through
and manipulation of time, and has mastered various far-future
technologies, notably regarding time travel.
He is a master manipulator, a
natural leader, a gifted strategist and a skilled combat veteran. In
his prime he had a relentless drive to conquer, although he was plagued
with ennui later in life.
The Centurion wears battle armor
incorporating various far-future technologies, notably subtle hypnotic
devices (including a subliminally mesmerizing aura and voice modulators
capable of subliminally influencing his listeners), a mind-influencing
device able to implant powerful suggestions in the minds of his foes,
sleep-inducing devices able to render his targets unconscious within
moments, and weapon systems such as ice generators (able to encase a
man in ice within seconds), concussive force blasters (strong enough to
stun Thor on their highest setting),
hard radiation emitters, magnetic force manipulators and electrical blasters. His armor can also generate a near-impenetrable force field similar to the one employed by his counterpart Kang.
His time travel mechanisms enable him to travel through time, sometimes taking passengers or cargo with him, and he often remotely beams “chronographic projections” (interactive transtemporal holograms) of himself into other time periods and locations, enabling him to communicate with people there.
He is served by numerous warriors, scientists, technicians, etc.
Weight: 230 lbs.
Eyes: Brown (perhaps altered to blue)
Hair: White (formerly brown)
covers the common history of Rama-Tut, Kang, and Immortus, prior to the
point of divergence. To skip to the point of divergence, click here.
(Young Avengers#2 (fb)) <3016 (Other-Earth calendar)> - At age 16, Nathaniel had developed an early Growing Man stimuloid. He was attacked at his schoolyard by Morgan, a bully who had humiliated him for years. Morgan slit Nathaniel's throat with the point of his anti-gravity unit. Nathaniel nearly died, spending a year in the hospital and almost bankrupting his parents.
(Fantastic Four I#19 (fb) / Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe A-Z #6: Immortus) - As an adult, Nathaniel found himself a man of action and adventure in an age of peace and was bored with his own time. Viewing history tapes (presumably brought to Earth-6311 by Richards the Benefactor and including cross-dimensional recordings following Richards' departure from Earth-616), Nathaniel learned of the Fantastic Four and others of the heroic age of Earth-616 (though he may not have been initially aware that these beings were not from the past of his Earth).
(Avengers Forever#9 (fb)) - Seeking adventure and excitement -- like he had observed in his tapes -- in an age of peace and contentment, Nathaniel delved into his genealogical history, finding the relics of an ancestor which some claimed to be Dr. Doom of the heroic era of Earth-616, while others claimed them to be Richards the Benefactor himself. These relics included the fortress of the Warlord, an alias used by Richards' wife, Cassandra, and mistakenly believed by many at the time to have been Nathaniel himself.
(What If? II#39 / Avengers Forever#9 (fb)) <3025 (Other-Earth calendar)> - - At age 25, Nathaniel Richards visited the ruins of the Warlord's fortress, left behind by his ancestor, Nathaniel Richards of Earth-616 nearly 1900 years before and preserved as a shrine. Within a long sealed chamber in the former fortress, he discovered a number of powerful weapons, which he began programming to serve his own ends. He also stumbled upon Nathaniel Richards' time platform, swiftly recognizing it for what it was.
(Fantastic Four I#19 (fb)) - Nathaniel discovered portions of a time machine and the instructions to operate the time machine.
(What If? II#39) - At
this point, in response to a threat of Richards' future
incarnation Immortus, the Time Variance Authority sent the
Fantastic Four of Earth-7712 to use the Saturnyne Symbiont--a
chronosynclastic nucleus designed by the scientists of omniversal
majestrix Saturnyne, whose function was to weaken an organism's
natural resistance to time energy. Implanted within Richards,
this would make it impossible for him to store the nexus power
and thus prevent him from becoming a temporal quantum wave as
Immortus had become. Uatu suggested sending the Reed Richards
Rocket Group--Earth-8212 Fantastic Four counterparts who had
never gained their powers--to facilitate Richards' exposure to
the Symbiont. However, the deputy secretary instead decided to
send the more powerful Fantastic Four of Earth-7712 (Big Brain,
Dragonfly, Mandroid, Ultra-Woman). This group failed, as their
imposing nature made Richards' distrust them, and Richards' used
the re-programmed weaponry from the Fortress to slay them all.
The TVA then agreed to Uatu's original proposal, and the Rocket Group succeeded, as they appeared to be less threatening. Reed Richards of Earth-8212 convinced Nathaniel of his honesty by allowing him to sample both of their DNA and confirming Reed and Nathaniel to be related. Accepting the reality of Immortus' threat, Nathaniel Richards agreed to willingly take the Symbiont, erasing Immortus' accumulated temporal energy and resolving the threat.
(Fantastic Four I#19 (fb) / Avengers Forever#9 (fb)) - Working from the remains of the Benefactor's device, Nathaniel of the 31st century spent years constructing his own time machine in the shape of an ancient idol, a Sphinx (to play on the superstitious beliefs of people of the past).
(Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe Deluxe Edition#10: Rama-Tut) - Nathaniel planned to loot various time periods for weaponry and technology while making his base in ancient Egypt.
(Rise of Apocalypse #2 (fb)) - Nathaniel donned a decorative (and possibly armored) costume for his journey
(Fantastic Four I#19 (fb) / Captain America Annual#11/6 (fb)) - After loading a number of robots into the time ship, Nathaniel used it to travel back in time to the past of Earth-616.
(Fantastic Four I#19 (fb)) - Nathaniel traveled back to 2950 BC (the Second Dynasty), but due to a miscalculation his ship crashed and was damaged, preventing him from leaving that era. Further, he was blinded in the crash.
(Rise of Apocalypse #2 (fb)) - The crash was observed by Baal of the Crimson Sands, leader of the savage Sandstormers, and only they saw the burning fragment that broke from the Sphinx and was buried under the sands.
(Rise of Apocalypse#1 (fb) - BTS / Rise of Apocalypse #2 (fb)) - Baal and the Sandstormers found the broken and blinded Nathaniel. Recognizing his power and seeking to ally with him, they nursed him back to health over a period of weeks, saving his life.
(Rise of Apocalypse #2 (fb)) - Baal named the stranger Rama-Tut, meaning "The Visitor from Beyond the Sun."
(Rise of Apocalypse#1 (fb) - BTS / Rise of Apocalypse #2 (fb)) - Upon his recovery, however, Nathaniel disappeared suddenly during one night, taking with him the strange objects the Sandstormers had found in his vessel, his footsteps heading towards the Pharaoh's lands.
(Fantastic Four I#19 (fb) / Captain America Annual#11/6 (fb)) - The power of Nathaniel's weaponry and robots made the Egyptians he encountered his slaves, cowing them with an energy weapon even as he fired blindly at them.
(Fantastic Four I#19 (fb)) - The natives obtained for Nathaniel a rare herb that, affected by the radiation from his damaged machine, restored his sight.
(Rise of Apocalypse#2 (fb)/Vampires: The Marvel Undead#1 (fb) - BTS) - Nathaniel usurped the throne from the previous Pharaoh Amenhotep, whose children included Ozymandias and his younger sister Nephri.
(Rise of Apocalypse#2 (fb) - BTS/Vampires: The Marvel Undead#1 (fb) - BTS) - Rama-Tut faked Amenhotep's death.
(Avengers I#129 (fb) - BTS) - Rama-tut trapped Amenhotep within the Pyramid of Rama-Tut.
(Avengers I#129 (fb) - BTS /Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe A to Z Vol. 6: Kang) - Rama-Tut forced Pharaoh Amenhotep to drink the nectar of the undead, transforming him into vampiric form.
(Avengers Forever#9 (fb) / Fantastic Four I#19 (fb) / Captain America Annual#11/6 (fb)) - Nathaniel became Pharaoh Rama-Tut, ruling as a virtual god among men.
(West Coast Avengers II#23 (fb) - BTS) - Though enslaving much of the population's lower class, Rama-Tut made the upper class into the capital's citizens.
(Rise of Apocalypse#1 (fb) - BTS) - Rama-Tut made Ozymandias his general (though Ozymandias conspired to rule himself).
(Rise of Apocalypse#1 (fb) - BTS / Rise of Apocalypse #2 (fb)) - Weeks after his departure, Rama-Tut returned to the Sandstormers, armed with his advanced weaponry and commanding Egypt's army. He demanded to know where the Eye of Ages was (within the missing ship fragment).
(Rise of Apocalypse#1 (fb) - BTS / Rise of Apocalypse #2 (fb)) - Rama-Tut tortured the Sandstormer clan to force them to reveal the location of a missing fragment of his ship, but they refused to reveal its location to him. Rama massacred the Sandstormers and enslaved most of the survivors. However, Baal had secretly found the Eye of Ages, and in it, he saw the face of a man powerful enough to defeat Rama: Apocalypse (En Sabah Nur).
(Rise of Apocalypse#1 (fb) - BTS / Rise of Apocalypse #2 (fb)) - Only a few (including Baal), escaped from Rama-Tut.
(Rise of Apocalypse#1 (fb) - BTS) - Rama-Tut hunted the few Sandstormers who escaped like dogs.
(West Coast Avengers II#21 (fb) - BTS / Captain America Annual#11/6 (fb)) - Rama-Tut put an end to the worship of the other gods of Egypt (notably the Ennead/Heliopolitans), earning their ire.
(West Coast Avengers II#21 (fb) - BTS) - The Priests of Khonshu began digging a tunnel under the sands between the Temple of Khonshu and Rama-Tut's Sphinx.
(Marvel Knights 4#16 (fb) - BTS) - Circa 2945 BC, Rama-Tut sired an illegitimate son, Ramades, with an Egyptian slave woman. Rama-Tut/Kang wasn't much of a father, "always running off to conquer the universe and such" and so Ramades grew up hating him.
(Killpower: The Early Years#1 (fb) - BTS) - Rama-Tut was frustrated as the sorceress Samira refused to bow to him.
(Killpower: The Early Years#1 (fb) - BTS) - Rama-Tut obtained a portion of the Chronifact when it was sent back in time. He studied it in secret to learn how to bend its powers to his will.
(Killpower: The Early Years#1) - Rama-Tut encountered Killpower, who had been sent into the past by the Time Guardian to locate a portion of the Chronifact and who had overpowered a group of Rama's guards and forced them to lead him back to their master. Intrigued by Killpower, Rama had a feast prepared for them, during which he had a servant hurl a number of asps at them, which he blamed on Samira. Rama then told Killpower that Samira had tried to destroy him because she feared that he would retrieve the Chronifact fragment, which she had stolen from Rama-Tut (in actuality, Rama still had the Chronifact fragment). Rama then slew the servant who had hurled the asps so that he could never reveal the truth.
After Killpower departed, Rama returned to his efforts to master the Chronifact fragment. Samira, however, swiftly showed Killpower an image of Rama with the Chronifact, convinced Killpower that Rama had lied to him, and then sent Killpower back to confront him anew. When Rama threatened Killpower with his Ultra-Diode Ray, Killpower used an image projector to create multiple images of himself to confuse Rama. Just then, Genetix, sent back in time by Mys-Tech's Oonagh Mullarkey to retrieve Killpower. Never having met the Genetix before, Killpower assumed them to be more agents of Rama-Tut.
(Killpower: The Early Years#2) - When Stinger redirected Rama's ultra-diode ray blast back at him, he rushed to his arsenal, then began firing at them with a weapon too powerful for Stinger to absorb. Killpower then found the Chronifact fragment, and as soon as he grabbed it, the Time Guardian pulled him forward in time again. Samira then contacted Genetix and made a portal to send them after Killpower, while Rama fled deeper into his palace. Following their departure, Rama used another device to absorb the residual chronal energy.
(Rise of Apocalypse#1 (fb) - BTS) - Seeking power by joining Rama-Tut's family, Ozymandias pledged Nephri to become Rama's bride.
(Rise of Apocalypse#1) - When his grand vizier Logos came to
report information, Rama overruled his general Ozymandias' refusal to let Logos
speak. Logos brought word of En Sabah Nur, a young outlander of bizarre
appearance and great strength within the Sandstormers/People of the Storm under
Baal of the Crimson Sands. Having known of the existence of Apocalypse,
Rama intended to find the young Nur and guide his maturation, rather than
allowing Baal, who intended for Nur to overthrow Rama-Tut, to do so. Rama
ordered Ozymandias to find and bring the young Nur to him.
While Baal showed Nur a subterranean chamber fragmented from Rama's original ship containing the Eye of Ages, Ozymandias led his armies to slaughter the Sandstormers. The Sandstormers, however, sensed their approach and ambushed them, though the ground collapsed above Rama's former vessel, swallowing up soldiers and Sandstormers alike, and injuring Baal and Nur.
(Rise of Apocalypse#2) - Ozymandias was sole survivor of the
collapse above. Nur healed from his wounds and became more powerful, while Baal
perished soon after.
Ozymandias told Rama that Nur had perished. Doubtful, Rama-Tut criticized Ozymandias for his failure to recover En Sabah Nur for him and ignored Logos' warnings that marrying Nephri would allow Ozymandias to manipulate him through her.
After Nur escaped the collapsed chamber, he was found by Logos, sent there by Rama-Tut, who apparently had knowledge of the site of his emergence. Logos, intending for Nur to save Egypt from the horror of a royal consolidation of Rama-Tut and the house of Ozymandias, had Nur hide out within the pyramid project.
(West Coast Avengers II#20) - Stuck in the past with time machine that traveled only backwards (actually sent there by Rama's future self from the end of his second reign, circa 2920 BC), a West Coast branch of Avengers (Hawkeye, Iron Man, Tigra, Wonder Man) arrived in 2940 BC to try to convince the younger Rama to aid them, knowing his was more malicious at this age. No sooner had they arrived, however, when Rama blasted all four of them into paralysis with his Ultra-Diode Ray.
(West Coast Avengers II#21 / Captain America Annual#11/6 (fb)) - After bragging to the fallen heroes of his origins, Rama had his guards take them to the temples of the gods he had discredited, telling them to instruct the priests to bury them. The Avengers were brought into a temple of Khonshu, who spoke with Hawkeye, arranging to aid them so that they might aid in Rama's fall from power. Khonshu healed the wounded Hawkeye, and as part of the arrangement reached through time to the modern era, communicating their need to his agent there, Moon Knight (as he lacked the power to move them through time directly).
(Fantastic Four I#19 (fb) - BTS / Captain America Annual#11/6 (fb)) - Perhaps inspired by Khonshu into researching Egyptology, the early modern era's Mr. Fantastic interpreted some hieroglyphics as indicating a radioactive vial had cured a pharaoh of blindness.
(Fantastic Four I#19 - BTS) - Encouraged by this discovery, Reed led the Fantastic Four to travel back to Egypt circa 2940 BC.
(Fantastic Four I#19) - Rama-Tut used his Ultra-Diode Ray to neutralize the Fantastic Four's powers, and they were captured by Rama-Tut's soldiers.
(Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe Deluxe Edition#10: Rama-Tut) - Nathaniel knew of the Fantastic Four from his ancestor's tapes.
(Doctor Strange#53 - BTS) - Some years later in the modern era, Sorcerer Supreme Dr. Stephen Strange traveled back to Egypt circa 2940 BC via the power of Nightmare, arriving shortly after the Fantastic Four. He came in search of a soul shard of Morgana Blessing that had been sent back progressively further in time along the line of her past incarnations, and Nightmare needed to aid him to prevent Morgana's spirit from reaching the birth of humanity and preventing mankind from dreaming. Strange detected power within the Sphinx and mystically located a portal. No sooner had Strange recognized the technology as being from the distant future than he was attacked by defense mechanisms which ultimately incapacitated him.
(West Coast Avengers II#21 - BTS) - Reviving, the Avengers were met by the Priests of Khonshu who offered to lead them through a tunnel to Rama's Sphinx.
(Doctor Strange#53 - BTS) - Dr. Strange's body was taken by Rama's robots towards a stasis chamber.
(West Coast Avengers II#22 / Captain America Annual#11/6 (fb)) - Guided to Rama-Tut's Sphinx by the Priests of Khonshu via their tunnel, the Avengers attacked the robots, hoping to free Dr. Strange that he might help them return to the future. While they battled those robots, however, four other robots conveyed Strange's body to the stasis chamber.
(Doctor Strange#53) - Moments before Strange's body was placed within a stasis field, he released his astral self.
(West Coast Avengers II#22) - As the four robots who had imprisoned Strange's body departed, the Avengers rushed in, but found they could not penetrate Rama's force field.
(Fantastic Four I#19 / Doctor Strange#53 / West Coast Avengers II#22) - The FF were brought before Rama-Tut. After Rama revealed his origins, Reed tried to steal his Ultra-Diode Ray, but Rama evaded his grasp and bathed the Four in a low-intensity ray that sapped their wills and made them his slaves. While he put the men to work -- Reed as a long-distance observer and a shield for his warriors, Human Torch as a court jester, and the Thing as a galley slave rowing a ship -- Rama planned to make Sue his queen.
(Doctor Strange#53) - Dr. Strange's astral self observed Rama's first meeting with the Fantastic Four.
(West Coast Avengers II#22 / Captain America Annual#11/6 (fb)) - The Avengers observed Rama's first meeting with the Fantastic Four. Hawkeye initially thought they had come in response to his efforts to send a message to them across time, but Iron Man realized this was the FF from years earlier than their own time. Nonetheless, they resolved to rescue the FF and use their time machine. They encountered the second group of Rama's robots and destroyed them.
(Doctor Strange#53) - Strange enlisted the aid of one of Rama's servants, who was Morgana's past self and hosted her soul shard.
(Rise of Apocalypse#3) - Hearing of uprisings among the slaves who had glimpsed Nur's power, Rama criticized Ozymandias for lying about Nur's death and commanded Ozymandias to find him amongst the slaves who hid him. Ozymandias noted that he had already had the involved slaves slaughtered, and that they did not hide him. Rama-Tut subsequently questioned Logos about the bandaged slave with whom he had been seen. Though Logos refused to divulge Nur's location even under torture, Rama reasoned that Nur would access Tut's Sphinx, and Ozymandias led troops to ambush him as he arrived there alongside Nephri.
At a public gathering, Rama announced Nur to be his chosen heir and successor. When Rama instructed Nur to bow to him to show his respect, Nur refused. Rama unmasked Nur before everyone, showing his inhuman visage to all's shock...all save Rama-Tut, who used this to try to demonstrate their kinship. After Ozymandias had slain Logos, Rama again told Nur to swear loyalty to him, and gain his secrets and power and eventually inherit his rule, or defy him and be destroyed, along with all he cherished. In response, Nur attacked Rama, who incapacitated him with a blast from his ultra-diode ray. Instructing the people to witness how the he dealt with this supposed messenger from the gods, Nur ordered Nur's body to be dismembered and the parts scattered from Pelusium to Memphis.
(Rise of Apocalypse#4 (fb) - BTS) - Nur recovered and escaped.
(Rise of Apocalypse#4) - Rama-Tut ordered that Nur be found and terminated, or Ozymandias would be killed in turn.
(Fantastic Four I#19 / Doctor Strange#53 / Captain America Annual#11/6 (fb)) - Dr. Strange's astral self secretly focused the rays of the Egyptian sun into cosmic rays beamed at the Thing, who turned back into Ben Grimm. Unaffected by Rama's ray (which had been tuned to the Thing's form), Ben and was able to escape the Thing's shackles.
(Doctor Strange#53 / Fantastic Four I#19) - Unknowingly guided by Dr. Strange's astral self, Ben leapt overboard, commandeered a chariot, and rushed Rama's palace. There he ambushed Rama and took his Ultra-Diode Ray, using it to release Sue from its effects before he reverted to the Thing form and fell back under Rama's control. Unable to evade Rama as she couldn't turn her garments invisible, Sue used the Ray to free Johnny, and Rama fled through an escape panel to escape his fireballs.
(West Coast Avengers II#22) - As the Avengers rushed towards Rama's court via Rama's own tunnel, they accessed a chamber containing a large group of Rama's guards. As they battled the guards, Rama emerged from his escape panel on the opposite side of the tunnel.
(Fantastic Four I#19) - Sue released Ben from Rama's control via the ray, the trio fought their way past another group of Rama's guards.
(Fantastic Four I#19) - The other three FF members located and freed Reed as well.
(Doctor Strange#53) - Dr. Strange's astral self led Morgana's past incarnation to release his physical body from stasis, and his astral self re-merged with it. Rama, himself, came upon the pair; lacking the time to deal with this new intruder personally, Rama activated some defensive lasers, but Strange found the lasers didn't pursue him when he flew the servant in the opposite direction of Rama.
(Fantastic Four I#19) - The Fantastic Four tracked Rama via his tunnel to within his sphinx. Rama tried to drown them as they approached but they overcame the trap.
(West Coast Avengers II#22) - The Avengers returned to the tunnel after Rama had passed through it and located his chambers, finding them empty. They returned to the tunnel, saw the door to the Sphinx open again, and figured the FF had gone there.
(Rise of Apocalypse#4) - Nur returned and overpowered Ozymandias, exposing him to Rama-Tut's Memory Lock device.
(Fantastic Four I#19) - Rama fled from the FF via his now-repaired satellite globe into the future. He left his sphinx behind to mystify humanity.
(West Coast Avengers II#22) - Feeling the vibrations, the Avengers observed Rama's departure via monitor and rushed to locate the FF or Dr. Strange.
(Fantastic Four I#19) - The Fantastic Four located the optic nerve restorative.
(Rise of Apocalypse#4) - As Rama departed, Nur destroyed Rama's lab and its contents within the Sphinx.
(Fantastic Four I#19) - The FF felt rumblings within the Sphinx, reasoned that it was a booby-trap left by Rama, and fled to the surface, speculating that Rama might have been Doom's descendant or Doom himself.
(West Coast Avengers II#22) - The Avengers arrived within the chamber Rama had departed seconds after the FF's departure, and they were rocked by the explosion.
(Fantastic Four I#19 / West Coast Avengers II#22) - Nur's explosion destroyed Rama's equipment and eliminated any trace of its existence (leaving behind just the Sphinx itself and not harming the Avengers within it), and memory of his reign apparently faded from humanity upon his departure.
(Doctor Strange#53) - Dr. Strange took the servant outside of the Sphinx, liberated Morgana's soul shard, and returned to his own time.
(Fantastic Four I#19 / West Coast Avengers II#22) - As the Avengers emerged from the top of the Sphinx and rushed towards the FF, the FF returned to their time via their time machine, leaving the Avengers stranded and frustrated, having missed three opportunities.
(West Coast Avengers II#23 - BTS) - The Avengers battled Rama's capital's citizens, who were furious over his departure, but they eventually fled before the warriors' numbers, returning to the temple of Khonshu. The Priests sealed the temple from the angry warriors, noting how -- as they had been informed by Khonshu -- the Avengers' kept the robots away from Strange's sarcophagus long enough for Strange to help the FF escape Rama's control, which resulted in Rama's defeat. While he waited for his rescue via the message he had sent across the ages, Hawkeye carved a series of weapons for other Khonshu followers, the darts, boomerang, and throwing irons that the priests would later give to Moon Knight. Eventually, via the Fantastic Four's own time machine, Dr. Pym, Moon Knight, and la Espirata recovered the Avengers and returned them to their own time.
(Fantastic Four I#19) - Upon the FF's return to their time, Reed realized that the time machine had been unable to transport the radioactive materials with them, so they were unable to help Alicia's blindness.
(Avengers I#269 (fb)) - Rama had just finished shaving off his ceremonial beard when his ship ran into unexpected chronal turbulence that forced him to exit the time-stream in the modern era of Reality-616 shortly after the time the Fantastic Four had arrived.
(Fantastic Four Annual#2/2) - Arriving near Jupiter's orbit, Rama-Tut rescued Dr. Doom as he hurtled through space towards Jupiter.
(Avengers I#269 / Avengers Forever#9 (fb)) - Rama knew of Doom's battles with the Fantastic Four from his ancestor's history tapes, and he both admired and feared Doom. With Doom disoriented from his ordeal in space, Rama fed him misinformation in the event that he might someday need Doom as an ally.
(Fantastic Four Annual#2/2) - After hearing Doom's history with the Fantastic Four, Rama speculated that they must have met for a reason and noted that Doom (creator of his time machine) was allegedly his ancestor. Doom, in turn speculated that perhaps he was not Rama's ancestor, but instead his predecessor, using the time machine of his design to travel to the future and become him...or that Rama had traveled into the recent past and become Doom. While Rama pretended to seek to unite against the Fantastic Four, Doom opined that they should not risk this, since, as possibly being the same person, if one perished, the other would as well. Convinced, Rama sent Doom back to Earth while he would head to the future.
(Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe A to Z Vol. 6: Kang) - Damaged by the time storm, Rama's time machine skipped several years into the future and crashed in Egypt.
(Fantastic Four: Foes#1) - Rama briefly attended a meeting held by the Puppet Master, who proposed an alliance to defeat the Fantastic Four. Before Rama and all the others declined and departed, a device of the Mad Thinker took cell samples of everyone present.
(Cable#57 (fb) - BTS / Cable#21 - BTS) - Years after his encounter with Doom, Rama-Tut traveled to the site of his old Sphinx and Pyramids. Unable to repair his time machine's control module, he decided to capture the time traveling mutant Blacquesmith. He assaulted Blacquesmith, demanding information on Cable.
(Cable#57 (fb) - BTS / Cable#32 - voice only) - Rama-Tut ambushed Blacquesmith again and abducted him, noting that he had studied his student (Cable) and knew that he could not survive the obstacles before him without Blacquesmith there to help him.
(Cable#57 (fb)) - Rama-Tut tried to force Blacquesmith's assistance via torture.
(Cable#54 - BTS / Cable#55 - BTS) - Imprisoned by Rama-Tut, Blacquesmith sought to contact Cable. Blacquesmith projected a mental image that was observed by Irene Merryweather.
(Cable#56 - BTS) - Blacquesmith contacted Cable, reprimanding him for failing to focus on his mission against Apocalypse.
(Cable#57) - Blacquesmith contacted his ally Cable, who came
to his assistance. As Rama battled Cable, a psychic disturbance across the
astral plane (caused by a trap set by the Shadow King and set off by
Psylocke/Betsy Braddock) virtually incapacitated Cable, removing his telepathy
and limiting his telekinesis. Rama battered his helpless foe, but was distracted
when the chamber trembled from damage that had occurred due to chronal forces
unleashed by Rama's module, and Cable grabbed his Ultra-Diode Gun, blasted Rama
with it, and then punched him out.
As Cable and Blacquesmith fled the growing chronal distortion, Rama returned to his control module, and the temporal feedback caused by the chronal distortion launched him into the timestream again.
(Avengers Annual#2 (fb) / Captain America Annual#11/6 (fb)) - Rama first traveled to the alternate Earth-689, where, as the Scarlet Centurion, he manipulated that world's Avengers to imprison all other superhumans. Apparently influenced by Immortus, he summoned Earth-616's Avengers to defeat Earth-689's, but the Avengers-616 defeated him and banished him into the timestream.
(Avengers Annual#2 / Captain America Annual#11/6 (fb)
/ Avengers I#269 / Avengers Forever#9 (fb)) - This
banishment diverged the Scarlet Centurion into two beings, with one traveling to
Earth-712's future to rule it, while the other divergent returned to his
Rama-Tut aspect and resolved to head back
to his own time, ultimately becoming Kang the Conqueror.
(Squadron Supreme: Death of a Universe (fb) - BTS) <3934 (in their current calendar)> - The Scarlet Centurion became ruler of his empire.
(Squadron Supreme I#2 (fb) - BTS) - In his future era, the Scarlet Centurion cured cancer and all other diseases.
(Squadron Supreme I#2 (fb) - BTS) - The Panacea
Potion -- a cure for all diseases, including cancer -- was developed by
the Centurion's research team at his request. The potion granted the
Centurion's subjects functional immortality.
(Squadron Supreme I#2 (fb) - BTS) - Decades later, having run out of challenges in his own century, the Scarlet Centurion attacked past eras, including the modern era of Earth-712.
(Squadron Supreme I#9 (fb)) <16 years prior to the
main story> - The Scarlet Centurion first arrived in the modern era
of Earth-712. Armed with a chronal displacer, he wreaked havoc in
Cosmopolis, New Troy (Earth-712's counterpart to Manhattan, New York),
sending objects of iron and other mineral resources to his 41st century
base. He was opposed by the original seven
Squadron Supreme members (Amphibian, Dr. Spectrum, Hyperion,
Nighthawk, Power Princess, Skymax, Whizzer) and driven from their time
(Squadron Supreme I#9 (fb)) - The Scarlet Centurion participated in a contest of champions against Reality-616's Grandmaster, organizing the Institute of Evil (Ape X, Dr. Decibel, Foxfire, Lamprey, Quagmire, Shape) to battle the Squadron Supreme (the same original seven members).
(Squadron Supreme I#9 (fb) - BTS) - The Scarlet Centurion attacked a second time with an army of heavily-armed commandos who, upon defeat, forfeited one of their time travel devices.
This device was analyzed by Tom Thumb and became..(the remainder of the statement was cut off, but presumably it indicated that Tom either converted it into or it served as the basis from which he developed his transtemporal somnaprojector.
(Squadron Supreme I#2 (fb) - BTS) - The Squadron
Supreme defeated the Scarlet Centurion the last three times he tried to
conquer their era.
(Squadron Supreme I#2) - As the Squadron Supreme met to discuss how they would develop the Utopia Program recover humanity from its recent problems, the Scarlet Centurion appeared in holographic form noting that as their world was tottering on the brink of social collapse they would not prevail against him this time. After the Centurion announced that he had an army of 10,000 of his finest temporal warriors about to pour into the four corners of their planet, Hyperion warned him that while they had allowed him to retreat to his own time in the past after his defeats, this time they would not. If the Centurion dared to attack them at this critical stage of recovery, Hyperion swore to kill him....to personally follow him to the end of eternity and tear him apart with his bare hands.
Convinced of Hyperion's sincerity, the Centurion backed down, noting that Hyperion took all the pleasure out of conquest, that he'd rather not take over a world in ruin, and that they had not seen the last of him.
(Squadron Supreme I#2 - BTS) - Later, while trying to cure cancer as part of the Utopia Program's resolution to solve humanity's problems, Squadron member considered that he might steal the solution from the future. Using the transtemporal Somnaprojector he had invented, Tom traveled forward/across to the Scarlet Centurion's 40th century base.
(Squadron Supreme I#2) - As Tom Thumb emerged in the Centurion's opulent pleasure palace, falling from at least 10-15 feet after emerging/arrival in open space, the Centurion stopped one of his guards from shooting Tom, noting that the entrance was too clumsy to be an attack.
After the Centurion recognized the
invader as the Squadron's Tom Thumb, Tom requested an audience with the
Centurion alone; noting he had little to fear from this enemy, the
Centurion ordered everyone to clear his court.
The Centurion was intrigued to
hear of Tom's bargain, and he confirmed that he conquered cancer
decades ago and run out of challenges in his time. When Tom offered his
own life or anything else the Centurion wanted in exchange for the
cure, the Centurion considered the offer.
Summoning a robot to bring forth the Panacea Potion so Tom could see what it was that he was bargaining for, the Centurion noted that, as far as he knew, he was the only being to possess it for the next forty centuries, indicating that if Tom had no one else with which to bargain.
Claiming to be a humanitarian, the Centurion agreed to provide a sample of the Panacea Potion in exchange for Tom sprinkling a sample of Argonite, which would render Hyperion vulnerable (at the time, Hyperion the Eternal was believed to be from the planet Argon, and Argonite was his bane...like Kryptonite to Superman if you need me to connect the dots). Though the Scarlet Centurion tried to rationalize this betrayal with the billions of beings who would be saved by the earlier introduction of the Panacea Potion, Tom refused to betray his allies. As Tom returned to his own time, the Centurion laughed, mocking him as a pathetic little man.
(Squadron Supreme I#9 - BTS) - Ape X convinced Tom Thumb, who was now dying of cancer himself, to take Lamprey and steal the Panacea Potion. Via a pair of Time Harnesses, Tom transported Lamprey himself forward in time to the Scarlet Centurion's realm; as Lamprey had been subjected to the Behavior-Modification device, which made him unable to commit crimes, Tom had to tell Lamprey that they were reclaiming something that the Centurion had stolen from them.
Following a conflict with the
Centurion's guards, Tom claimed the last sample of the Panacea Potion,
as the other samples had been destroyed in a fight. Tom rationalized
this, figuring the Centurion's scientists could develop more.
(Squadron Supreme I#9) - Having witnessed Tom Thumb's activities, the Centurion considered this to be amusing, as he had wondered how long it would take Tom to decide to steal the potion. He further lamented that the past had so many variables and blank spots.
(Squadron Supreme I#9 - BTS) - Back in his own time, Tom found that the Panacea Potion was only penicillin and a few complex vitamins, and he reasoned that people of the future had had centuries of eugenics to bolster their immune systems, which is why the potion worked for them.
(Squadron Supreme I#9 (fb) - BTS) - Tom returned the Panacea Potion to the 40th century
(Squadron Supreme I#9 (fb) - BTS) - A week later, Tom Thumb died.
(Squadron Supreme: Death of a Universe (fb) - BTS) - The Scarlet Centurion had trod upon thousands of universes.
(Squadron Supreme: Death of a Universe) - The Scarlet Centurion's was absolute monarch of an empire that spanned 15 worlds and encompassed three trillion citizens, but his power and lack of challenges left him bored.
(Squadron Supreme: Death of a Universe (fb) - BTS) - The Centurion found a veil enshrouding the "modern era" (see comments) of Earth-712; the veil resisted multiple time-probes. He left instructions with his technicians to be notified if they pierced the veil.
(Squadron Supreme: Death of a Universe (fb) - BTS) - The Centurion read his technician's treatise on his chronoclastic cannon.
(Squadron Supreme: Death of a Universe (fb) -
BTS) - The Centurion took in a future incarnation of the Over-Mind
(possibly his own era's), allowing him to stay in the royal palace for
an unrevealed duration.
(Squadron Supreme: Death of a Universe) <New Year's day of 3979 (by their current calendar, the 45th year of the the Centurion's reign> - As the Centurion sat in his palace's amphitheatre and blasely watched a pair of women engaging in mortal combat, his ally, the Over-Mind of his future era, challenged him to a wager to liven up the action. The Scarlet Centurion unenthusiastically agreed, and his warrior initially gained the advantage, but the Over-Mind then mentally paralyzed the Centurion's champion, allowing the Over-Mind's champion to triumph. After the Centurion admitted he had cheated and asked if this aroused his ire, the Centurion told him, "No...very little arouses much of anything in me these days."
Noting his appreciation for the Centurion's generous hospitality, Overmind warned him that his ennui might prove his undoing if left unchecked for too long, further noting that he had seen this happen countless times to long-lived overachievers like themselves: "Without some passion...you lose the will to live." Removing his own helmet, the Centurion cut him off, noting he already knew this, but he had indeed lost his passion and was no longer motivated by conquest, nor was he interested in victory, defeat, life, death, love or hate: "It's all but a dance of flickering shadows without inherent meaning."
When Overmind asked if he had achieved every single thing he intended to achieve in this life, the Centurion noted that there was only one era he had coveted but not conquered, but that one was no longer worth the effort. They were then interrupted by one of the Centurion's aides, who informed the Centurion of news on the veil over Earth-712's modern era. Intrigued, the Centurion replaced his helmet and excused himself; Overmind was only able to appreciate that something about Earth from long ago actually excited him.
Learning that the technician's chronoloclastic cannon had penetrated the veil, the Centurion asked why this time period had resisted all previous time problems. Instead, with the Centurion's approval, the technician activated the hologrammaton, showing how a hand (that of the Nth Man) appeared through a rift next to that Earth's sun, growing larger than the sun and threatening the Earth; however, the image then broke up as the veil again became impenetrable.
Irate at having had one enigma replaced with another, the Centurion insulted the technician and ordered him to activate the chronoclastic cannon again and send another probe. The technician regrettably informed him that the cannon had overoscillated and they were in the midst of reconstructing it; when the Centurion angrily grabbed him by the chest, the technician told the Centurion to slay him if it pleased him.
Grabbing another technician and taking his seat,
the Centurion instructed the technician to replay the existing image at
optimum enhancement. He then considered that the reason they could not
observe the Earth because the whole solar system had been destroyed,
after which he wondered what divergence had allowed his own reality
line to still exist two millennia later. The Centurion further
instructed his technician that after he had viewed that image, he
wanted to focus on the Earth in the 12 hours prior to the "cataclysm,"
as he wanted to observe what his ancient enemies, the Squadron Supreme,
did when they learned of the end of their world.
The Scarlet Centurion sent a chronographic
projection of himself to Earth-712 ten hours before the hand would
engulf Earth, appearing in the castle base of Master Menace shortly
after Menace discovered the hand appearing on the far side of the sun.
The Centurion greeted Menace and explained the nature of his projection
as well as his peaceful intent after Menace futilely fired a blast
through his projected image.
After mocking Menace's frenzied attempts to pack
and depart, the Centurion offered to help him save the universe; he
further noted that this force was bigger than anything he had witnessed
int he thousands of universes upon which he'd trod, and that if it
wasn't stopped her, who knew where or when it would go next. It could
reach any dimension to which Menace fled or any time period in which
the Centurion resided; he further noted that it may be easier to stop
it now while it was relatively small and while they were at their
After Menace considered that he could try to
thwart this force and flee at the last moment if needed, Hyperion
arrived, seeking their aid. The Centurion convinced Menace to
deactivate his defenses and allow Hyperion's entrance to aid in the
upcoming struggle. When Menace demanded Hyperion not only beg his aid
but also kneel before him, the Centurion reminded him they didn't have
time for his ego-gratification. He further assured Hyperion he was
there to observe and help if possible.
After Menace agreed to supply his spaceworthy vehicle, he noted his plans to modify his dimensional aperture generator to form a trap to send the invading force elsewhere; he further noted that the Centurion would take him to his time period, where he could use the available future technology and take as long as needed before returning a minute after he left.
After a few modifications, the Centurion transported Menace forward in time to his base.
(Squadron Supreme: Death of a Universe (fb) - BTS) - While building an aperture trap of planetary proportions didn't take that long, miniaturizing it sufficiently so that the Centurion could transport it through time took longer. Fifteen years passed before Centurion and Menace returned to Earth-712's modern era.
(Squadron Supreme: Death of a Universe) - Having
lost track of exactly when they left, they returned 46 minutes after
they left, just as Hyperion had given up on them and was preparing to
(Seven hours and 54 minutes before the Nth Man would engulf Earth) - The Squadron Supreme (Arcanna (posing as Moonglow so they wouldn't prevent her from coming as she had recently had another baby), Dr. Spectrum, Hyperion, Lady Lark, Power Princess, Whizzer), as well as allies Haywire, Inertia, Redstone, Professor Imam, arrived at Menace's base, and the Centurion and Menace joined them in departing Earth in Menace's ship; however, Redstone -- his powers somehow dependent on Earth -- perished as they reached escape velocity.
(Six hours and 51 minutes before the Nth Man would engulf Earth)
- The Centurion observed silently as Dr. Spectrum, Hyperion, Lady Lark,
and the Whizzer departed to distribute Menace's dimension traps around
the humanoid figure that already dwarfed the sun.
(Six hours before the Nth Man would engulf Earth)
- The Centurion silently observed as Menace appreciated that the entity
would engulf the sun before the heroes could reach their positions, and
as Inertia was destroyed trying -- with her powers and range augmented
by Moonglow/Arcanna and Imam -- to slow the expanding being. He was
amused to silently note as Arcanna used her energies to seal the
resultant rent in the ship's hull, the concentration of which caused
her to briefly drop her illusion and appear in her true form.
(Five hours and 39 minutes before the Nth Man would engulf Earth) - As the dimension traps were prepared, the Centurion noted that they would see whether years of effort have borne fruit and he should finally see the veil of time rent asunder.
When the device failed, Menace teleported extradimensionally to escape. When Power Princess asked when he would depart as well, the Centurion noted that he was only appearing as a temporal-interface transmitting hologram and he would watch until the very end. However, conceiving another idea, the Centurion departed with a new plan.
(Squadron Supreme: Death of a Universe (fb) -
BTS) - Returning to his palace, the Centurion recruited the Overmind --
with a monumental amount of persuasion -- to try to turn back the
(Four hours before the Nth Man would engulf Earth) - Imam perished in learning/revealing the Nth Man's origins.
(Three hours and 50 minutes before the Nth Man would engulf Earth)
- The Centurion physically traveled to Menace's ship along with
Overmind (now obviously much older), and told Power Princess and the
others present that the Overmind would unleash his incomparable psionic
force upon the intelligence of the expanding entity to order it to go
back where it came from; he further noted that the Squadron and their
world would owe him.
However, as the Overmind exerted his full force,
his head exploded, and his body dropped to the ground...to the
Centurion's obvious disappointment.
Telling the Squadron they couldn't say he didn't
try, he bade his enemies farewell, hoping that their deaths would be
painless. Arcanna tried to convince him to take her one-week-old son, Benjamin Thomas Jones,
back to his realm, as he didn't deserve to perish. Briefly looking into
the infant's eyes, the Centurion turned away, retrieving the Overmind's
body and telling Arcanna he would make a very poor babysitter, before
departing back to his realm.
(Squadron Supreme: Death of a Universe - BTS) - As the Nth Man engulfed Earth, the infant Benjamin Jones, who succeeded Imam as his world's sorcerer supreme, negotiated replacing Thomas Lightner as the N th Man and reversing his interdimensional expansion.
(Squadron Supreme: Death of a Universe (fb) -
BTS) - For the eight months following the Centurion's return to his
era, no servant, vice-regent, concubine, or visitor dared to disturb
(Squadron Supreme: Death of a Universe)
<New Year's day of 3985, the 51st year of the Centurion's reign>
- The Centurion sat silently on his throne, contemplating what might
have been...and now would never be.
He considered that he could have entrusted the child to any of millions in his empire, but that the child would have been a constant reminder of his failure of nerve.
He dwelled upon the fact that in the one moment when it
mattered, his thirst for knowledge was insufficient to risk his own
existence. He knew that the veil would never open again.
(Squadron Supreme: Death of a Universe (flash-forward) - BTS) - The
Centurion would never know what happened to Earth as the expanding
entity reached it, nor would he know that if he had taken Benjamin with
him, he would have doomed Reality-712.
The Centurion would live for another 211 years
and would acquire wealth and power beyond that of any human being in
the history of the species, he would meet his death with discontent. He
realized that knowledge was the true wealth of the universe, and the
only thing you could take with yourself to the grave.
Comments: Rama-Tut created by Stan Lee, Jack Kirby, and Dick Ayers;
Scarlet Centurion created by Roy Thomas, Don Heck, Werner Roth, and Vince Colletta.
this divergent Scarlet Centurion created by Mark Gruenwald, Bob Hall, and John Beatty.
Differences between the history of Other-Earth and Earth-616, as well as differing calendars in different realms, and damage to records during periods of massive warring, have led to some inconsistency in the dating of the time periods of both Kang and Ravonna.
While it's a topical reference,
the Squadron's computer records from Squadron Supreme#9 noted 9/4/1970
as the first appearance of the Scarlet Centurion in Earth-712's modern
I'm not sure of the significance of this date. It's after first appearance of Squadron Sinister and before the first appearance of the Squadron Supreme...
Is the Scarlet Centurion's empire in the far future of Earth-712? Or some other
Explanation #2: The Scarlet Centurion's future Earth may have originated from the Earth-712 timeline but some unspecified divergence occurred which enabled his own reality line to still exist past the 21st century. Since the prevailing theory about how the Marvel Multiverse functions is that divergent worlds were ALWAYS separate timelines that just happened to be identical up until the point of divergence, that would mean that this Centurion's reality was never actually a future version of Earth-712 and should be renumbered.
Explanation #3: Even though Earth-712 was destroyed in the early 21st century, the Scarlet Centurion was able to establish an empire ruled from Earth-712 in the 40th century because a replacement Earth (Earth-712A?) was somehow provided by person or persons unknown. Maybe this replacement Earth was the original Earth-712, somehow restored by some incredibly improbable means (like a cosmic-powered god-boy made a wish)? Or maybe an Earth from an alternate reality was shunted into Reality-712 to take the destroyed Earth-712's place? Whatever the method, the Earth that exists in Reality-712 in the 40th century is not exactly the same as the Earth-712 that was destroyed in the early 21st century.
Any of these explanations would serve to resolve the paradox. Personally, I prefer the second one, simply because the Centurion's Earth was never ABSOLUTELY confirmed in-story to be a future Earth-712. Having it always have been a different Earth means there is no need to invent reasons for how it could have survived, reasons that would just increase the complexity of the situation. Occam's Razor.
It looked to me that the Over-Mind was betting in favor of the blue gladiatrix, but his thoughts and actions, and then the resolution, indicate the opposite.
The story said the veil was "enshrouding the latter half of the 20th century," but that's a topical reference. Maybe 12-15 years have occurred since the Fantastic Four's space flight (Spider-Man was 15 when he got his powers...how old is he now?), so there is a sliding timescale in the Marvel Universe. As this story was only 6-7 years ago in the sliding timescale, that's already 21st century...we call the current/active time period starting with Fantastic Four I#1 "the modern era."
The description from the year 3985 noted that the Centurion's empire included fifteen moons and planets, while the year 3979 description noted it included fifteen worlds. Perhaps he minimally expanded his empire, taking no more worlds, but just establishing a few colonies/outposts on satellite/moons.
Captain America I Annual#11's Kang
origin feature confirmed the divergence point of the Squadron Supreme
foe Scarlet Centurion for the one who would become Kang as at the
conclusion of Avengers Annual#2.
The Scarlet Centurion has had profiles in Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe Update '89 #6, Avengers Log, Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe Alternate Universes#1, All-New Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe#9, and Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe A to Z hardcover#10.
Earth-14210 divergent future of the Scarlet Centurion in which the Centurion took Benjamin Jones from Earth-89209 back to his 40th century base to save him from the expanding Nth Man (Thomas Lightner) threatening to engulf their universe; Squadron Supreme: Death of a Universe (1989)
Earth-89209 divergent Earth-712; Scarlet Centurion took Benjamin Jones back to his 40th century base (Earth-14120) to save him from the expanding Nth Man (Thomas Lightner) threatening to engulf their universe; as a result, Benjamin was unable to exchange places with Lightner and save Earth. Squadron Supreme: Death of a Universe (1989)
Profile by Snood.
The Scarlet Centurion should be distinguished from his divergent counterparts
images: (without ads)
Squadron Supreme I#2, pg. 9, panel 2 (projecting confronting Squadron Supreme)
pg. 22, panel 4 (smirking at Tom Thumb);
#9, pg. 4, panel 1 (contest of champions with Grandmaster);
pg. 5, panel 2 (masked face, profile and frontal);
panel 3 (old footage of first known interaction with Earth-712's modern era);
Squadron Supreme: Death of a Universe, story pg. 1 (throne room);
pg. 3, panel 3 (unmasked face - older);
pg. 70, panel 3 (masked face; close-up);
pg. 78, panel 3 (brooding on throne);
Fantastic Four I#19 (October, 1963) - Stan Lee (writer/editor), Jack Kirby (penciler), Dick Ayers (inker)
Fantastic Four Annual#2/2 (1964) - Stan Lee (writer/editor), Jack Kirby (pencils), Chic Stone (inks)
Avengers Annual#2 (September, 1968) - Roy Thomas (writer), Don Heck (penciler), Werner Roth, and Vince Colletta (inker), Stan Lee (editor)
Doctor Strange#53 (1982) - Roger Stern (writer), Marshall Rogers (penciler), Terry Austin (inker), Al Milgrom (editor)
Avengers I#269 (June, 1986) - Roger Stern (writer), John Buscema (breakdowns), Tom Palmer (finished art), Mark Gruenwald (editor)
West Coast Avengers II#20-21 (May-June, 1987) - Steve Englehart (writer), Al Milgrom (layouts), Joe Sinnott (finishes), Mark Gruenwald (editor)
West Coast Avengers II#22 (July, 1987) - Steve Englehart (writer), Al Milgrom (layouts), Kim DeMulder (finishes), Mark Gruenwald (editor)
West Coast Avengers II#23 (August, 1987) - Steve Englehart (writer), Al Milgrom (layouts), Romeo Tanghal (finishes), Mark Gruenwald (editor)
Captain America Annual#11/6 (1992) - Peter Sanderson (writer), Rich Yanizeski (penciler), Fred Fredericks (inker), Pat Garrahy (assistant editor), Ralph Macchio (editor)
Fantastic Four Annual#25/5 (1992) - Peter Sanderson (writer), Rich Yanizeski (penciler), Ray Kryssing (inker), Pat Garrahy (assistant editor), Ralph Macchio (editor)
Killpower: The Early Years#1-2 (September-October, 1993) - Mike Barr (writer), John Ross (penciler), Martin Griffiths (inker), Jacqui Papp (editor)
Cable#21 (July, 1995) - Jeph Loeb (writer), Arnie Jorgensen (penciler), Mark Pennington (inker), Lisa Patrick (editor)
Cable#32 (June, 1996) - Jeph Loeb (writer), Ian Churchill (breakdowns), Scott Hanna (finishes), Mark Powers (editor)
Rise of Apocalypse#1 (October, 1996) - Terry Kavanaugh (writer), Adam Pollina (penciler), Mark Morales & Harry Candelario (inkers), Mark Powers (editor)
Rise of Apocalypse#2-3 (November-December, 1996) - Terry Kavanaugh & James Felder (writers), Adam Pollina (penciler), Mark Morales (inker), Mark Powers (editor)
Rise of Apocalypse#4 (January, 1997) - Terry Kavanaugh & James Felder (writers), Adam Pollina & Anthony Williams (pencilers), Mark Morales & Al Milgrom (inkers), Mark Powers (editor)
Cable#54 (May, 1998) - Joe Casey (writer), Ladronn (penciler), Juan Vlasco (inker), Mark Powers (editor)
Cable#55 (June, 1998) - Joe Casey (writer), Ladronn (penciler), Juan Vlasco & Keith Aiken (inker), Mark Powers (editor)
Cable#56 (July, 1998) - Joe Casey (writer), Ryan Benjamin (penciler), Matt Banning, w/ Scott Hanna, Keith Aiken, & Jon Holdredge (inkers), Mark Powers (editor)
Cable#57 (August, 1998) - Joe Casey (writer), Rhan Benjamin (penciler), Scott Hanna w/ Banning & Holdredge (inkers), Mark Powers (editor)
Avengers Forever#9 (August 1999) - Kurt Busiek & Roger Stern (writers), Carlos Pacheco (pencils), Jesus Merino (inks), Tom Brevoort (editor)
Marvel Universe: The End#2 (May, 2003) - by Jim Starlin (writer/penciler), Al Milgrom (inker), Tom Brevoort (editor)
Fantastic Four: Foes#1 (March, 2005) - Robert Kirkman (writer), Cliff Rathburn (artist); Andy Schmidt, Nicole Wiley, & Molly Lazer (assistant editors), Tom Brevoort (editor)
Marvel Knights 4 #16 (May, 2005) - Roberto Aguirre-Sacasa (writer), Jim Muniz (penciler), Jim Royal and Derek Fridolfs (inker), Warren Simons (editor)
Squadron Supreme I#2 (October, 1985) - Mark Gruenwald (writer), Bob Hall (penciler), John Beatty (inker), Ralph Macchio (editor)
Squadron Supreme I#9 (May, 1986) - Mark Gruenwald (writer), Bob Hall (penciler), John Beatty (inker), Ralph Macchio (editor)
Squadron Supreme: Death of a Universe (1989) - Mark Gruenwald (writer), Paul Ryan (penciler), Al Williamson (inker), Ralph Macchio (editor)
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