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Official Name: Carnassia

NatureExtraterrestrial planet, unidentified star system, unidentified galaxy 

Environment: Life-sustaining biosphere

Gravity: Unrevealed (but presumably possessed a gravitational field in which it was comfortable for humans to function)

Atmosphere: An unspecified combination of gases (presumably mostly nitrogen and oxygen as multiple semi-humanoid races breathed it comfortably without obvious life support)

Natural Satellites: Unrevealed

Artificial Satellites: None known

Natives: None known

Population: Unrevealed;
    there is no mention of any native population, but that does not mean there was not one;
    however, if the Interdite was the only regular inhabitant, its population was presumably zero following Gamora's departure.

Capital City: Unrevealed, if any

Government: Unrevealed, if any

Languages: Unrevealed

Monetary Unit: Unrevealed, if any

National Defense: Unrevealed, if any

Major Resources: Formerly the Interdite

Planetary Defense: Unrevealed

Places of Interest: At least formerly the cave-base of the Interdite;

Prominent Residents: Formerly an unidentified Interdite;

Visitors: Gamora, the unidentified Roclites, an unidentified Sagittarian, an unidentified Sirusite nobleman;
    numerous beings who came to the Interdite to benefit from his prophecy

First Appearance: Guardians of the Galaxy: Rocket Raccoon & Groot -- Steal the Galaxy  (2017; see comments)

History:
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Guardians of the Galaxy: Rocket Raccoon & Groot -- Steal the Galaxy Chapter Seventeen: Meanwhile, Meanwhile (five days earlier on Carnassia) (fb) - BTS) <Eight decades before the main story> - After the last other member of the Order of the Divine Oracolites perished, the final surviving member chose to maintain the notion of the Order singlehandedly. Based out of a cave in the high peaks of a windswept and ragged mountain range that ran like a spine across the main landmass of the planet Carnassia, he lived a lonely, hermetic existence. Individuals from other worlds came to visit him, making the demanding trek because they craved access to the psionic insight into the future that his order possessed. They came to him with questions, frets, worries, doubts, and fears; and he gave them answers.

(Guardians of the Galaxy: Rocket Raccoon & Groot -- Steal the Galaxy Chapter Seventeen (fb) - BTS) <Over a year before the main story> - A Sirusite nobleman came to the Interdite Oraclite to discover whether his wealthy bride-to-be would remain faithful to him.

(Guardians of the Galaxy: Rocket Raccoon & Groot -- Steal the Galaxy Chapter Seventeen:  (fb) - BTS) - The Interdite Oraclite sensed that the Zen-Whoberian Gamora would be coming to ask about the location of the Rigellian Recorder #127. Aware at least to some degree that that Recorder held the bulk of the information needed for Project 616 -- which could grant power to utterly control the entire galaxy (at least) -- and that Gamora had been employed to recover the Recorder by the Negative Zone's Annihilus, the interdite resolved that he could not give Gamora the answers that she would seek. However, appreciating that the future was in flux and that there were limits to his precognitive abilities, he saw the ultimate resolution only as a blank void.

(Guardians of the Galaxy: Rocket Raccoon & Groot -- Steal the Galaxy Chapter Seventeen: (fb) - BTS) - To protect himself from Gamora, the Interdite Oraclite employed a trio of Roclites and a Sagittarian.

(Guardians of the Galaxy: Rocket Raccoon & Groot -- Steal the Galaxy Chapter Seventeen) - Gamora confronted the Interdite, slew the Roclites and the Sagittarian when they attacked her, forced the information she sought from the Interdite Oraclite, and then apparently slew him.

(Guardians of the Galaxy: Rocket Raccoon & Groot -- Steal the Galaxy Chapter Seventeen: (fb) - BTS) - Gamora almost certainly left the corpses of her victims where they fell when she departed Carnassia.

Comments: Created by Dan Abnett.
    In the Acknowledgments section, Dan thanked Stuart Moore, Jeff Youngquist, Axel Alonso, Dan Buckley, Sarah Brunstad, and James Gunn for their support in this project.
    He also noted "fist-bumps to <the Appendix's own> Ronald Byrd for continuity-fu."

    In-continuity?

    People question whether novels should be in-continuity. There is a mindset that they should arbitrarily and automatically excluded. I don't get that at all. If the stories fit seamlessly in-continuity and they add to the rich texture of the "Marvel Universe," why exclude them? In any case, characters in such stories as novels, games, etc. that don't contradict -616 continuity are considered "fringe characters." They fit into existing continuity, but are not definitively part of it until they are confirmed to be so in a story, handbook, etc.
    There is one significant continuity glitch, but it has been referenced in other stories confirmed to take place in Reality-616 (see Donald's discussion below)
    They sure fit in better than a lot of stuff by certain writers...you know who you are...and we know who you are...
    Not only that, but the story specifically references the universe in which they dwelled to be Reality-616...however, the Marvel Cinematic Universe movies refer to their mainstream reality as -616 also...

Counterpoint by Donald Campbell:

    As much as I liked this novel, there were some elements that bothered me. For example, Alpha Centauri is described as a "cosmic hubworld (that governs) almost thirty systems and trillions of lives." This definitely does NOT sound the like 616 Alpha Centauri system where the Centaurians are usually depicted as only having a "bow-and-arrow" level technology, the Alpha Centaurians (assuming they are not nearly extinct) are focused on desperately trying to keep their homeworld habitable, and the Centurii from Centuri-Six (which may or may not actually be part of the Alpha Centauri system) were all kidnapped by slavers. And yes, I hold this opinion despite the fact that, in Annihilators#1/2, Abnett and Lanning established that Rocket Raccoon had worked for six months as a mail clerk at the Alpha Centauri offices of the Customer Services Division of Timely Inc. Also, while the Timely offices were aboard an orbiting ship in that comic, in this novel they are on the planet Alpha Centauri...which is also wrong/inconsistent with the Marvel Comics universe.

    In conclusion, I really enjoyed the novel but I don't think it was meant to be canon and I don't think that it should be treated as being "in continuity." And I would REALLY like some writer to finally get around to explaining the current status quo in the 616 Alpha Centauri star system. I mean, what level of technology do the Centaurians actually possess? What do the Centaurians actually call their race? What is their name for the planet known to Terrans as Centauri-IV? Can Alpha Centaurians still live on Arima or was the planet left too dehydrated after Sub-Mariner I#18? Is Centuri-Six actually in orbit around Proxima Centauri? 

     Personally, due to the Alpha Centauri discontinuity, I would prefer it if Recorder #127 were as incorrect in his statement that he existed in "Universe 616" as some characters from Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness were when they assigned the number "616" to the Marvel Cinematic Universe (Reality-199999). However, that's just my opinion.

 Me again:
    Valid point on the Marvel Cinematic Universe, but the difference is that the novel  is not clearly a different reality or part of a different Multiverse than the comics Reality-616 as the cosmic hierarchy, (Uatu the Watcher, Galactus, etc.) etc., is the same. Additionally, this story goes to great lengths to fit solidly with Reality-616's continuity, alien races, etc.
    The Alpha Centauri discrepancy is certainly significant, but bigger issues than that happened consistently in Bendis' and other writers' stories that are considered Reality-616.

    As you note, -616 stories have contradictions within the Alpha Centauri system, but they're not excluded...as well as there having been relatively recent -616 continuity comics that reference Rocket's past with the Alpha Centauri offices of Timely Inc.
    Timely Incorporated may have offices on an orbiting ship, but the office on Alpha Centauri is presumably the main office. Maybe they moved portions or entire buildings. They have the technology...they can rebuild it...

    Anyway...the bottom line is that this story and all the characters in it are fringe characters until confirmed one way or another.
    At minimum, the story occurred in Reality-17721.
    Did the same or similar events occur in Reality-616?
    Who knows?
    --Snood

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Appearances:
Guardians of the Galaxy: Rocket Raccoon & Groot -- Steal the Galaxy prose novel (2017) - by Dan Abnett (see comments)

First posted: 03/23/2024
Last updated: 03/23/2024

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